Oil Filter Cannister question

[Stovebolt]

Gents -- Please pardon what may be a dumb question, but I am a dumb guy so please indulge me ...

After my recent oil change, I am having a hard time getting the top of the oil filter cannister to seal. I am getting a leak. What is the trick to getting it to seal correctly?

Thanks,
John

[NAM VET]

once i temporarily lost the spring that holds the filter down, and do you have a soft washer under the bolt head? And check to see the large circular gasket under the cap is not damaged.

nv

[Cal_Gary]

No question on this forum is a dumb one-questions are encouraged in order to learn. That's how we gained our individual and collective knowledge!

Is it the correct filter? Some are a little taller than others. I use the NAPA Gold 1100.
Gary

[Stovebolt]

Thanks Gary -- As we know, not all MV-related forums are quite so simple question friendly ... Its leaking around the gasket. I am starting with a good gasket from the correct filter. Apparently, the first time, I tightened the top too much and pinched/holed the gasket. Second attempt, with a new gasket, I went barely snug. Too tight ... too loose ... so am I trying to find the "sweet spot?" On my '49 Chevy with the AC-Delco filter unit (which uses the same cartridge, BTW), the trick has always been to really sock it down tight. But when I tried that with this one, I destroyed the gasket. So I backed off, and I'm still leaking. I don't have any more gaskets ... Can I just cut one out of inner tube rubber?

Thanks

[Cal_Gary]

That would take a pretty thick inner tube but you could give it a try-my canister gaskets are at least 1/8 inch thick or more.
Gary

[just me]

There are two gaskets. One in the lid and one under the bolt head. You shouldn't be able to damage the one on the lid, it is big and thick and the lid shouldn't turn when you are tightening the bolt.
The one under the bolt can be a trick. It is SUPPOSED to be a copper washer. One time use. The correct washer is hard to find locally and in any quantity. I have had fair luck with nylon washers sized appropriately. There are two styles of sealing washer I see used often. The domed one with rubber on one face is actually not supposed to be used on pressure applications. The steel clad rubber inner washer works great. I always put a flat washer between the bolt and the seal washer so it doesn't get torn by turning moment when tightening.

[jim lee]

I've been able to reuse the copper washer by sanding it down to a mirror finish then putting it back in. Worked great, don't leak.

-jim lee

[Stovebolt]

Thanks! So apparently, the gaskets supplied with the filters are incorrect? They have been pretty thin. The top bolt is not leaking. It's just leaking around around the lip.

[milstencil]

In my previous life, I worked for 2 great Chrysler mechanics who were also WWII motor pool mechanics.
They always said "never change the gasket unless you have to"! I had a 55 PW at the time.
There are 2 size gaskets for the filter cover. The one that comes with the 1100 filter is about 1/4" wide (not thick)
I have never used them and have a bunch hanging on a nail in the cellar.
The one that is correct is 3/8" wide, and you have to socket down hard to seal the cover.
If you change out the gasket, put some grease on both sides of the gasket to help seal it.
As a note, I have since changed out the canister for a spin on type filter. No more leaks or mess when changing!!
Hope this helps?
Rick

[Stovebolt]

Thanks for the replies. So the gasket supplied with the replacement filter is wrong -- figures. Can I double them up?

I wish to remain original or I would check out switching to a spin on.

[ZGjethro]

I'd like to hear more about the spin on filter conversion. Maybe some pictures and part number

[milstencil]

Baldwin OB-1305 spin-on base for by pass oil filtration
Uses either Baldwin B-50(short) or B164(long) filters.
Will try and get a photo posted later.
Rick

[pwrwagonfire]

In my previous life, I worked for 2 great Chrysler mechanics who were also WWII motor pool mechanics.
They always said "never change the gasket unless you have to"! I had a 55 PW at the time.
There are 2 size gaskets for the filter cover. The one that comes with the 1100 filter is about 1/4" wide (not thick)
I have never used them and have a bunch hanging on a nail in the cellar.

I have also heard this from old timers! Never change it unless you have to. I've stuck with that, and always put a glob of oil on it before tightening it down, no issues.

I have also "had to" use one of the new washers before...mine didn't leak...

T