2nd RUN of disc brake components
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2nd RUN of disc brake components
Our second run of disc brake components for M37 and Power Wagon is well underway. We got some hubs back today, more to come soon. Axle kits will be limited quantity based on the number of hubs we have to process. Let us know soon if you are interested in purchasing.
Charles Talbert
www.mseriesrebuild.com
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Re: 2nd RUN of disc brake components
Hi Charles. If there is any hub machining to be done, do you do it in house? I think you had a thread about this before, but I can't remember the specifics. Will the disc and caliper fit inside a 16" drop center rim? Could you PM me about the cost?
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John
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Re: 2nd RUN of disc brake components
I'm also curious about the cost to get a set of hubs done. I have the hubs and can source all the other parts to save on shipping
Isaac
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Re: 2nd RUN of disc brake components
Hubs must be shipped to us for conversion. This process along with caliper bracket component parts and spacer ring is done on CNC equipment for dead on accuracy.
Base conversion kit parts for 1 axle include:
2 modified hubs with new bearing cups installed
1 left-1 right caliper bracket
2 rim spacers
Grade 8 hardware for attaching rotors and caliper brackets is included.
We have changed some steps in obtaining raw materials and the manufacturing process this time which will bring some time savings into the mix; but of course raw material cost has increased since the 1st run was completed. I simply do not know at this point in the process how all this will shake out and eventually affect final kit cost of the 2nd run.
I will post the cost as soon as we get a few kits completed so a base line of actual cost involved can be established.
The question of whether the set up would fit inside a drop center rim; no way for me to know unless I had the rim to check for fit. The design of the set up is to work with an original BUDD rim. My guess would be that a drop center rim probably is too close and would not work, but that is only a guess. It would likely depend on the actual design and increment of drop on said rim??
Base conversion kit parts for 1 axle include:
2 modified hubs with new bearing cups installed
1 left-1 right caliper bracket
2 rim spacers
Grade 8 hardware for attaching rotors and caliper brackets is included.
We have changed some steps in obtaining raw materials and the manufacturing process this time which will bring some time savings into the mix; but of course raw material cost has increased since the 1st run was completed. I simply do not know at this point in the process how all this will shake out and eventually affect final kit cost of the 2nd run.
I will post the cost as soon as we get a few kits completed so a base line of actual cost involved can be established.
The question of whether the set up would fit inside a drop center rim; no way for me to know unless I had the rim to check for fit. The design of the set up is to work with an original BUDD rim. My guess would be that a drop center rim probably is too close and would not work, but that is only a guess. It would likely depend on the actual design and increment of drop on said rim??
Charles Talbert
www.mseriesrebuild.com
www.mseriesrebuild.com
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Re: 2nd RUN of disc brake components
2nd run is progressing well; we have all the flanges welded on the hubs that we currently have; these are back at the machinist for final steps to be completed. We have caliper bracket components in house, we will be welding mounting ears onto the plates this upcoming week. Rim spacers are completed.
If anyone has core hubs they wish to be included in the 2nd run process; NOW is the time to get them to us. Please let us know right away so that we are aware of your intentions. I will be getting in touch with all whom have requested a contact as soon as the hubs get through the final machining steps.
If anyone has core hubs they wish to be included in the 2nd run process; NOW is the time to get them to us. Please let us know right away so that we are aware of your intentions. I will be getting in touch with all whom have requested a contact as soon as the hubs get through the final machining steps.
Charles Talbert
www.mseriesrebuild.com
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Disc brake kits completed
The 2nd run of disc brake components is now 100% completed. We have made the individual parts involved in manufacturing to much more precise standards than with the previous run. The raw material for the hub rotor flanges was laser cut to rough shape; inner bore was finish machined to size for a press fit onto the newly machined hubs outer surface. Flanges were welded in place, with finish machining, hole placement, threading, etc., done on a CNC mill.
Raw material for the spacer plates, caliper bracket plates, and bracket ears were water jet cut. Spacer and caliper bracket plates were then Blanchard ground on both sides to a precise finish and thickness tolerances. Finish machining and hole placement is done on a CNC mill. The bracket ears are formed using a 2-step press method that produces the precise ear shape; holes are placed and threaded on a CNC mill. Ears are welded to the disc using a precision built jig for exact ear placement. Everything is designed and built to exacting standards using all USA made material and manufacturing is done right here at home.
The basic components for 1 axle includes:
2 rebuilt hubs with a welded rotor flange, 16 grade 8 rotor attaching bolts, new high quality inner and outer bearing cups are installed in each hub.
2 rim spacer plates.
1 left side caliper mounting bracket with necessary grade 8 attaching hardware
1 right side caliper mounting bracket with necessary grade 8 attaching hardware.
1 wood shipping crate.
1 installation instruction manual, this covers all needed info to properly install either front or rear axle kits. There is also a part number list of locally available, high quality normal wear components in the manual that are required to complete your new system. We can furnish these items at an additional cost, but we suggest you source these items at a local auto parts supplier. The items (such as rotors) weigh quite heavy, so purchasing locally will save you a significant amount on shipping cost.
*NOTE* please advise whether the kit will be used on a front or rear axle, brackets are the same, however the necessary attaching hardware components differ from front or rear. This helps us to insure we are furnishing the correct attachment hardware in your kit.
The cost per axle kit is $895.00
Shipping is additional cost and will of course vary depending on where you are. If you are ordering a kit for only 1 axle, Fed-Ex Ground or Home delivery is likely the best option. If you are ordering 2 kits for a 4-wheel installation, the weight exceeds Fed-Ex limitations and is usually best shipped via LTL truck freight. This is typically lower cost than shipping 2 crates using Fed-Ex service. We would need to verify to be certain we are getting the lowest cost shipping available for your location, sometimes minor specifics do make a difference. Shipping to a commercial address will almost always mean lower cost regardless of the carrier; if you can furnish us a commercial address for a reputable business who is willing to receive your crate, it will likely be a shipping cost advantage for you.
We have only a limited number of kits that we can sell outright, as we must retain enough in stock to meet demands for our own projects. Please contact us promptly if you have interest; shop phone: 704-474-4683 or email: mseriesrebuild@windstream.net
Raw material for the spacer plates, caliper bracket plates, and bracket ears were water jet cut. Spacer and caliper bracket plates were then Blanchard ground on both sides to a precise finish and thickness tolerances. Finish machining and hole placement is done on a CNC mill. The bracket ears are formed using a 2-step press method that produces the precise ear shape; holes are placed and threaded on a CNC mill. Ears are welded to the disc using a precision built jig for exact ear placement. Everything is designed and built to exacting standards using all USA made material and manufacturing is done right here at home.
The basic components for 1 axle includes:
2 rebuilt hubs with a welded rotor flange, 16 grade 8 rotor attaching bolts, new high quality inner and outer bearing cups are installed in each hub.
2 rim spacer plates.
1 left side caliper mounting bracket with necessary grade 8 attaching hardware
1 right side caliper mounting bracket with necessary grade 8 attaching hardware.
1 wood shipping crate.
1 installation instruction manual, this covers all needed info to properly install either front or rear axle kits. There is also a part number list of locally available, high quality normal wear components in the manual that are required to complete your new system. We can furnish these items at an additional cost, but we suggest you source these items at a local auto parts supplier. The items (such as rotors) weigh quite heavy, so purchasing locally will save you a significant amount on shipping cost.
*NOTE* please advise whether the kit will be used on a front or rear axle, brackets are the same, however the necessary attaching hardware components differ from front or rear. This helps us to insure we are furnishing the correct attachment hardware in your kit.
The cost per axle kit is $895.00
Shipping is additional cost and will of course vary depending on where you are. If you are ordering a kit for only 1 axle, Fed-Ex Ground or Home delivery is likely the best option. If you are ordering 2 kits for a 4-wheel installation, the weight exceeds Fed-Ex limitations and is usually best shipped via LTL truck freight. This is typically lower cost than shipping 2 crates using Fed-Ex service. We would need to verify to be certain we are getting the lowest cost shipping available for your location, sometimes minor specifics do make a difference. Shipping to a commercial address will almost always mean lower cost regardless of the carrier; if you can furnish us a commercial address for a reputable business who is willing to receive your crate, it will likely be a shipping cost advantage for you.
We have only a limited number of kits that we can sell outright, as we must retain enough in stock to meet demands for our own projects. Please contact us promptly if you have interest; shop phone: 704-474-4683 or email: mseriesrebuild@windstream.net
Charles Talbert
www.mseriesrebuild.com
www.mseriesrebuild.com