What is wrong with my truck?!?
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What is wrong with my truck?!?
Two odd behaviors happening to my new-to-me M37.
1. All my gears are reversed. 1 thru 4th gears make my m37 move backwards and reverse moves it forward. Where should I start to look for the problem? I'm thinking transfer case?
2. When I engage the front axle, the truck won't move. The truck feels like it is being twisted. Makes me think the front axle is going one direction and the rear axle is going the other?!?
Thanks in advance....
1. All my gears are reversed. 1 thru 4th gears make my m37 move backwards and reverse moves it forward. Where should I start to look for the problem? I'm thinking transfer case?
2. When I engage the front axle, the truck won't move. The truck feels like it is being twisted. Makes me think the front axle is going one direction and the rear axle is going the other?!?
Thanks in advance....
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Someone flipped rear differential? Sounds like front axle want to go forwards and rear axle wants to go backwards. Keep us informed, Paul
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
How about some pictures of the drive train.
"It may be ugly, but at least it is slow!"
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
I'm with Paul. Rear diff is in upside down. Yes it will fit.
Tom
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Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Are you saying somebody flipped the gears inside of the diff?
Seems that flipping the axle end-for-end would have no effect...?
Seems that flipping the axle end-for-end would have no effect...?
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
If the drain plug is on top of the diff, the ring gear will be on the wrong side and run backwards and not well lubed.
"It may be ugly, but at least it is slow!"
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Drain plug is on the bottom, so I guess that means the axle housing is correct, but the guts are in bassackward?
I'm confused.
So I imagine I pull the axle shafts, take off the bearing caps, flip the gears and reinstall?
I'm confused.
So I imagine I pull the axle shafts, take off the bearing caps, flip the gears and reinstall?
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Engine running backward? Sounds crazy I know but I saw deuce and a halfs do this on occasion. Don't know if it's possible with the 230 Dodge....
Gary
Gary
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1954 M37 W/W
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1954 M37 W/W
MVPA Correspondent #28500
G741.org Forum member since 2004
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Give us a picture.
You can not assemble the gears incorrectly. If it is possible, the drop out center may have been installed upside down. But I'd stake money on the stud pattern not allowing that.
I want a picture of the drive train to know if you even have correct drive train components in the truck.
You can not assemble the gears incorrectly. If it is possible, the drop out center may have been installed upside down. But I'd stake money on the stud pattern not allowing that.
I want a picture of the drive train to know if you even have correct drive train components in the truck.
"It may be ugly, but at least it is slow!"
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Sorry these pics aren't great- the truck is 150 miles away so I had my brother go out in the dark last night to get them.
pass. side:

driver's side:

pass. side:
driver's side:
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
I wouldn't have thought it possible, but the pumpkin sure looks to be installed upside down.
The centerline of the pinion is below the centerline of the axles. But not in your pics. The fill plug is on the passenger side normally, not in your pics.
If he would move back a bit so we can actually see the center section and axle, it would help. Also, have him shoot pics of the front pumpkin. The fill should be driver side on it.
The centerline of the pinion is below the centerline of the axles. But not in your pics. The fill plug is on the passenger side normally, not in your pics.
If he would move back a bit so we can actually see the center section and axle, it would help. Also, have him shoot pics of the front pumpkin. The fill should be driver side on it.
"It may be ugly, but at least it is slow!"
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Yikes!
When you flip the 3rd member check the gears and bearings, especially the pinion bearings. They may not have been getting lubed properly. On second thought something tells me the truck was not driven very much after the install
! Wonder what happened there?!
When you flip the 3rd member check the gears and bearings, especially the pinion bearings. They may not have been getting lubed properly. On second thought something tells me the truck was not driven very much after the install

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Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
My grandpa has done this before with a gmc deuce axle
He built a truck puller that had a 427 and a 350 pointing opposite directions The back engine powered the front axle and the front engine powered the rear axle
That thing made 1200plus hp
And that's a combined 777 cubes
Sorry to hijack your thread
He built a truck puller that had a 427 and a 350 pointing opposite directions The back engine powered the front axle and the front engine powered the rear axle
That thing made 1200plus hp

And that's a combined 777 cubes


Sorry to hijack your thread

Thanks,TRAVIS
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1952 M37 FARM TRUCK
230 W/THRUSH EXHAUST, DELETED HEAT RISER AND 12 VOLT IGNITION
1941 WC RATROD
w/ 5 TON MULTIFUEL TURBO DIESEL
When it comes to gambling I don't play the Powerball, I play the Powerwagon
1952 M37 FARM TRUCK
230 W/THRUSH EXHAUST, DELETED HEAT RISER AND 12 VOLT IGNITION
1941 WC RATROD
w/ 5 TON MULTIFUEL TURBO DIESEL
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
sorry but that has me laughing hard. ;/) diff is upside down. pull axle shafts, remove diff and put in correctly. someone had too many beers working on it one day it seems. lol
Re: What is wrong with my truck?!?
Well it was parked behind my uncle's shed when we picked it up. I didn't ask many questions. Maybe he screwed up the rear pumpkin and just parked it.