Governor adjustment
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Governor adjustment
Hi guys. I am still in the long haul of getting my m37 project on the road. I want to try adjusting my governor as this truck just will not go more than 35 mph. I have tried pretty much everything and a few mechanic friends are stumped. So, the subject at hand
I have the EME manual and according to it, setting the governor is simply a matter of removing the cap and adjusting the brass screw. The problem is, it is a delicate looking brass screw with a slot head. It will not turn with any modest torque. I am afraid the head might strip. There is a adjusting nut in there, does it also need to move. Nothing in the manual.
Thanks
I have the EME manual and according to it, setting the governor is simply a matter of removing the cap and adjusting the brass screw. The problem is, it is a delicate looking brass screw with a slot head. It will not turn with any modest torque. I am afraid the head might strip. There is a adjusting nut in there, does it also need to move. Nothing in the manual.
Thanks
Re: Governor adjustment
TM9-1826A covers the Carter carbs and includes the governor adjustment procedure. I don't have the TM; however, I do have the Ahl M37 Restoration guide that also has the process detailed by Alan Bowes, and he included his email address: a.bowes@m.cc.utah.edu
There is an internal nut with two slots on the head that handle the surge adjustment while the inner shaft adjusts the maximum speed-counterclockwise increases the maximum speed. Alan fabbed up a special tool to engage the nut and the center shaft at the same time in order to hold one while turning the other. Sorry I have no capability to scan the image for you. Recommend securing the aforementioned source materials if you can, or see if Alan's email address is still valid.
Gary
There is an internal nut with two slots on the head that handle the surge adjustment while the inner shaft adjusts the maximum speed-counterclockwise increases the maximum speed. Alan fabbed up a special tool to engage the nut and the center shaft at the same time in order to hold one while turning the other. Sorry I have no capability to scan the image for you. Recommend securing the aforementioned source materials if you can, or see if Alan's email address is still valid.
Gary
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1954 M37 W/W
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1954 M37 W/W
MVPA Correspondent #28500
G741.org Forum member since 2004
Re: Governor adjustment
If I recall, 52 M-42 has the special wrench for this and has done the adjustments. Try sending him a message and see what he can tell you?
-jim lee
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Re: Governor adjustment
This should help out:
http://www.g741.org/PHPBB/viewtopic.php ... nor#p54198
As far as a tool you can make one w/ a piece of tubing and a file. File a screwdriver "blade" into the tip of the tube and cut it to a length that allows you to insert a smaller screwdriver through its center. This will allow you to adjust the inner and outer screws.
http://www.g741.org/PHPBB/viewtopic.php ... nor#p54198
As far as a tool you can make one w/ a piece of tubing and a file. File a screwdriver "blade" into the tip of the tube and cut it to a length that allows you to insert a smaller screwdriver through its center. This will allow you to adjust the inner and outer screws.
Re: Governor adjustment
But back to the question. Shouldn't the inner screw turn independently of the nut?
Re: Governor adjustment
I have the Carb TM in a PDF. Email me andrewd@jedcosales.com and I will send it to you if you want.
Re: Governor adjustment
Yes, it should.
You can actually remove the cover of the gov. on the engine and take a peak, but it may be wiser to pull the carb. It's possible that someone bottomed the screw in the outer nut with a bit of enthusiasm and it's stuck. If it were me I'd yank the carb and have a look. If you break the screw you'll need a gov. rebuild kit at minimum.
Andy
You can actually remove the cover of the gov. on the engine and take a peak, but it may be wiser to pull the carb. It's possible that someone bottomed the screw in the outer nut with a bit of enthusiasm and it's stuck. If it were me I'd yank the carb and have a look. If you break the screw you'll need a gov. rebuild kit at minimum.
Andy
Re: Governor adjustment
It looks like the gov was already adjusted to the max speed. I will pull it apart to see if something isn't quite right. I am at my whits end as this thing just wont go over 35. Giving it more throttle just bogs it.
And thanks guys for all the info
And thanks guys for all the info
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Re: Governor adjustment
There's a chance your distributor isn't advancing like it should. That would cause similar symptoms.
Isaac
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Re: Governor adjustment
-John
Member of Dixie Division MVC
1953 USAF M37 wow, restored
1962 M151 Ford Production, on the rotisserie now
1953 USMC M37 w/w -in storage
1942 M6 Bomb Service Truck (sold to UK collector)
1967 M116A1 Pioneer Trailer
1968 M101A1 Trailer
S-89 Comm box
Member of Dixie Division MVC
1953 USAF M37 wow, restored
1962 M151 Ford Production, on the rotisserie now
1953 USMC M37 w/w -in storage
1942 M6 Bomb Service Truck (sold to UK collector)
1967 M116A1 Pioneer Trailer
1968 M101A1 Trailer
S-89 Comm box
Re: Governor adjustment
If you preset the inner and outer adjustments before putting the unit back on the carburetor, it will be easier to adjust once on the truck. I tried doing it myself but eventually had to have a buddy run the pedal while I watched my military tach and adjusted both. It was a process but I got the surge out and the governor engages at about 3100 rpm. Not that I go that fast....50 tops and normally only 40.
-John
Member of Dixie Division MVC
1953 USAF M37 wow, restored
1962 M151 Ford Production, on the rotisserie now
1953 USMC M37 w/w -in storage
1942 M6 Bomb Service Truck (sold to UK collector)
1967 M116A1 Pioneer Trailer
1968 M101A1 Trailer
S-89 Comm box
Member of Dixie Division MVC
1953 USAF M37 wow, restored
1962 M151 Ford Production, on the rotisserie now
1953 USMC M37 w/w -in storage
1942 M6 Bomb Service Truck (sold to UK collector)
1967 M116A1 Pioneer Trailer
1968 M101A1 Trailer
S-89 Comm box