repairing or adjusting the governor

ron · Post by **ron** » Sun May 18, 2008 6:46 pm

I've got a stock motor, that doesn't have any power in third or fourth gears while going up any incline. I've played with the timing, which doesn't seem to help. How about the governor, anybody have some ideas, I can't find too much on it, Thanks

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Sun May 18, 2008 7:18 pm

No power going uphill, huh? It could be that the governor needs a bit of tweaking, as you suggest, but it could also be a fuel delivery probblem (weak fuel pump or something) or just a tired engine. What do your compression readings look like?

pfrederi · Post by **pfrederi** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:38 am

I guess it depends on the hill

Around here mine also has a hard time in 3/4th on hills. You are after all trying to overcome gravity on a 3 ton truck with less than 90 horsepower.

Timing should be at 2 BTDC but I am also suspicious about your fuel supply. When I first got my truck years ago she would absolutely crap out on hills. Turned out to be crud in the fuel tank and a mostly clogged filter.

I have a copy of Alan Bowes' article on rebuilding the governor I think I can email it to you... However I would check the fuel supply and the compression first as they are more likely candidates

ron · Post by **ron** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:08 am

Thanks guys, I have a different situation with my truck. It was rebuilt totaly by Charles Talbert in 2001, but only had 170 miles put on it in all those years. I bought it this year, it's unbelievable, how nice a job he did on it. I haven't checked the compression nor have I checked the fuel system yet. I played with the timing, no help. I think you're right about the fuel, because it started to stumble yesterday in third and fourth gears. Paul if you could, please send me that article, I don't have it, Thanks Ron
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Gerry · Post by **Gerry** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:25 am

Paul could you send me that article also?
Thanks,

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:34 am

If Charles rebuilt your engine 170 miles ago, I imagine it's safe to say that you don't have a "tired" engine. Sounds more and more like a fuel issue.

ron · Post by **ron** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:29 am

boy, you guys hit it right on the head. fuel problem!!! I took out the pickup and it was all rusted inside and out, so I pulled off the filter and rust ran out the intake. Discharge side looks clean [ let's hope ] I'm going to get the tank cleaned, how's Renu, any comments. They want around 325 to do their treatment on it, sounds like a complete process. Let me tell you about my truck, Charles rebuilt everything, from the winch to the rear axle. he put four wheel disc brakes and power steering on it. 4.89 gears with a lock right rearend. The gas tank has been painted, but not sure if it was coated on the inside. The truck wasn't used for all those years, just 170 miles around the farm, I feel very lucky to own this truck, I'm starting out with every component on it like new [ no leaks! ] I can't say enough about the excellent quality of their work, anyway thanks again and hope to learn alot more from all you guys, ron

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Mon May 19, 2008 12:26 pm

I'm glad you found the problem and that it is an easy and (relatively) cheap fix.

hairpin151 · Post by **hairpin151** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:53 pm

Paul,
I would like a copy of that governer article too if its possible.Thanks1

ron · Post by **ron** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:51 am

Just pulled my gas tank, and rinsed it out then scouped out at least 2 coffee cups full of rust! That's not counting what ran out with the water. The outside of the tank looks great, all painted up, the inside is total rust, just goes to show you, would be a good thing for everybody to check, before problems start

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Tue May 20, 2008 3:31 pm

Hey Ron,
Glad your truck is working out well, not surprised to hear about the fuel tank woes though. I made at least 3 trips to SC over those years George owned it to free up clogged fuel lines. He just didn't use it hardly at all after the build. Gas tank renu is a great service. The timing should be set at 4 degrees BTDC, this is where it will perform the best, I would be surprised if there is a governor issue.

ron · Post by **ron** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:55 am

Charles, I'm having a great time with the truck, You're right about not using it, rust will set in and in no time things get ruined. I'm going to have renu fix the tank and I have a new filter between the pump and the carb. I'm going to look at the pump, but I guess it will need rebuilding. What should I do with the gas lines, compressed air or replacement. I think the carb is alright, the gas was clean coming out of the filter. The truck started and ran great with no load on it. Thanks for everybodys help, Ron

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:27 pm

I think we replaced the lines during the build, if they blow out clean with no obstructions noticable, they are likely ok to reuse.

TOM R · Post by **TOM R** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:43 pm

got a modded gas tank in the 46 jeep it was done up by renu and works great no leaks

Rail man · Post by **Rail man** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:11 pm

Paul
I would also like to have a copy of the Governor article.

I would like to add the reneu proses seams to be near indestructible.
I had it done on my tank, although the restoration is not complete the tank has had gas in it for 2 years...no problems I think it's well worth the price.I used an elasticizing agent in the paint, didn't change the color that I can see.

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