"RARE" Parts on EBay....NOT

outsider · Post by **outsider** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:24 am

This is a rant about M 37 parts listed on EBay as "Rare". Here is the link to the parts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123

These are anything BUT rare! You can purchase these at any Heavy Duty Truck parts outlet. Just tell them you want inner and outer nuts for a steel Budd rim set up.

I sent the seller a PM stating they were not rare as he said in his listing. He sent me back a PM basically telling me to mind my own business. People like him that think misleading buyers is OK just piss me off.

Rant off.
Steve

powerwagontim · Post by **powerwagontim** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:42 am

Not only are they not rare, they are for 7:50 16 tires. If these are used with 9:00 16s the sidewalls will rub, and that wont last too long before they go POW!
Tim

refit1701 · Post by **refit1701** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:34 am

Buyer beware is the Golden Rule. Or "there's a sucker born every minute"

That's why people should not start buying parts for things until they have some knowledge.

Carter · Post by **Carter** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:44 am

Also when running duals on an M37, the ground pressure is reduced on each tire which makes the rear less tractive and will be slicker when operating on wet pavement. I had that set-up years ago and found stopping on a wet road resulted in the back trying to swap ends with the front. It's just not a good idea.

outsider · Post by **outsider** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:06 pm

I originally PM'd this guy to hopefully educate him and that he would change his listing accordingly, but alas being misleading is profitable for him and the $ rules.

BTW: The standard M 37 lug nuts are also from heavy trucks and are still common parts for all those that don't know that. That's both the Left and Right threaded ones!

Steve

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:51 pm

Sad, but oh so true, the $ rules.

It isn't just on ebay that it's happening either, although that is a prime place to get taken for a sucker. I've been chewed out royally for speaking the truth a number of times when it rained on someone's dishonest $$ parade. It's happening all the time, even when folks realize they have a bad run of stuff, many times they rush to market it in an effort to recoupe their loss as much as possible before folks catch on to the fact it's not good. I on the other hand ask myself this question, do I want to put stuff out there that I know is not good, or do I simply eat the loss and keep my good company name? For me it's a nobrainer, I check out all I buy to resell before I resell the first item, if it isn't a part that I would welcome buying for my own use, I will not pass it on to my customers, It's just that simple. If I can't make an honest $ for an honest days work, I just don't need it. That was my raising, and I'm proud my parents worked hard to teach me honest values and the importance of putting them into practice in daily life.

rixm37 · Post by **rixm37** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:58 pm

I hope I don't sound too dumb but I have a set of those I got for free a year or so ago. If you put 2 wheels and tires together the rims don't touch the tires do. There is a space between the rim faces. The rims have to touch and not the tires for this to work right? Do you have to get thinner tires? A spacer?
I don't want to do duals just interested in how it works.

powerwagontim · Post by **powerwagontim** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:07 am

That is what I was referring to in my earlier post. The Dodge 1/2 tom Weapons Carriers had 7.50x16 tires. These could be dualed up with those studs and not hit the tire sidewalls. Folks have done spacers with the 9:00s but basically, if the sidewalls rub, it aint working!
Tim

Post by **Cal_Gary** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:44 am

I got clipped on a new master cylinder locally just after I'd picked up my M-didn't have any idea how plentiful they were, and shelled out twice the price. Once I realized this I made sure to do my homework before purchasing any other items and it has helped tremendously. I shared that story in a Supply Line article a few years back.
Gary

rixm37 · Post by **rixm37** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:28 am

Thanks Tim. that explains it for me.

refit1701 · Post by **refit1701** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:58 am

There are duals on the truck I just bought. They took two Budd rims and moved the center out so when they are bolted up they do not touch. Now I have two messed up rims. Luckily they are extras.

Carter · Post by **Carter** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:17 am

Those maybe trailer rims and not converted truck ones. I saw some surplus special purpose equipment trailers at Sam Winers in Akron some years ago that had mounted Budd wheel duals like the one pictured and had that deep dish center. They will fit an M37 but aren't correct for it.

rixm37 · Post by **rixm37** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:48 am

Wow what a pic of the duals.
Doesn't look right does it. I suppose it worked for what it was meant to do. Ya too bad the rims were ruined in the process, I think they could have used the smaller tires like Tim was talking about.

powerwagontim · Post by **powerwagontim** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:00 am

Well, like Carter said, the rims could have been the deeper offset ones from the git go. I have seen several sets so they are not too scarce.
Tim

Carter · Post by **Carter** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:55 am

Looking at the shots closer I see what looks like spots of mig weld metal, should be rivets unless they were made up new with welding. The trailer rims I saw were riveted.