What would you do?

PO62880 · Post by **PO62880** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:53 am

I just sold a used snowmobile. The guy that bought it new it had some issues. I told him the brakes worked last year but were now sticking. He took it to a repair shop and they did some tinkering to the carbs and told him he need to replace some brake parts. The guy took it out yesterday and rode it without fixing the brakes. The brakes locked up and go some hot they bent the rotor and some other parts I guess. He calls me this morning wanting his money back. I told him I don't think so you knowing used the machine after you knew it needed some brake parts......Just don't like being the bad buy and felt like venting a bit.

nivek · Post by **nivek** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:27 am

Nothin' printable or repeatable here.

kevinL

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:32 am

PO62880 wrote:I just sold a used snowmobile. The guy that bought it new it had some issues. I told him the brakes worked last year but were now sticking. He took it to a repair shop and they did some tinkering to the carbs and told him he need to replace some brake parts. The guy took it out yesterday and rode it without fixing the brakes. The brakes locked up and go some hot they bent the rotor and some other parts I guess. He calls me this morning wanting his money back. I told him I don't think so you knowing used the machine after you knew it needed some brake parts......Just don't like being the bad buy and felt like venting a bit.

Sounds like you told him of the issues as best you knew. If he had a problem with these issues, I can't understand why he went ahead with the purchase of the machine. After he has now taken the machine out & has had issues to arise as a result of the problems you told him about & that the repair shop tech told him about. Well, this is your deal, personally I would tell him straight up how irresponsible his actions were. He's lucky he isn't seriously hurt because of the brakes seizing up. If I understand this story correctly, he has now done further damage to the machine as a result of not addressing the issues he was made aware of up front. The more I think about this, the clearer it becomes. He buys a machine after being made fully aware of a brake issue. He then goes out to run that machine without fixing the problems he knew existed. Now he calls up the seller wanting a refund after really screwing up the show. Sounds to me like this nut is just plain STUPID on all fronts.

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:14 am

I agree with Charles. Unfortunately, this guy sounds like the kind of nut who will try to sue your sorry butt. If he does, he most likely won't have a leg to stand on (and his lawyer will probably tell him so) but he may decide to proceed anyway. Do you know a lawyer who would be willing to take him on for free? If so, go for it!! If not, it might be easier on the wallet to refund his money, less the cost of damages he caused, and take the sled back.

Nickathome · Post by **Nickathome** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:18 am

Hey, you warned the guy! If he was dumb enough to go out and ride without fixing the brakes, then that's on him, plain and simple. Money back...Don't think so pal!

Unfortunately thats the problem with selling things to people, Always some clod who thinks he'll be able to get his money back after HE screws the thing up. I hope you got a signed bill of sale, etc. He won't have a leg to stand on in court.

anthony manzella · Post by **anthony manzella** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:25 am

THE ONLY THING I can think of is when you sold the sled did you put on any type of recipt sold as is this for sure would clear you of any type of ferther actions, I say screw him, the guy is a D/F I have own a cupple of sleds and you must go threw them before ridding them if not the owner takes all responsilbiltys , what a BUTT HEAD !

HingsingM37 · Post by **HingsingM37** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:21 am

I agree with all of the above replies. If he rode it after both you and the shop told him it needed brake work he is a dope.

PO62880 · Post by **PO62880** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:14 pm

well guys thanks for the advise. I decided to give him his money back less the money for the parts as I have found another person to sell it to that actually has a brain and will fix it before he uses it.

Post by **Cal_Gary** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:00 pm

Sad-next time it might be a good idea to make the sled "non-op" before the sale so the next buyer can't freeload it into the ground and then return it. That's why some sellers make old vehicles non-runners prior to the sale-just for the very reason you got stuck this time.
Gary

anthony manzella · Post by **anthony manzella** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:28 am

TO PUT ON THE BILL OF SALE [ SOLD AS IS] DATE & AMOUNT.

I WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN AS KIND HEARTED AS YOU, MY HAT GOES OFF TO YOU !

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:47 am

I assume you acted as you felt necessary & of course your personal decision is exactly that. I would not have taken it back, you just can't trust people, especially ones that pull these types of stunts. I would have concern about what else I might find he screwed up that just failed to get mentioned at the time of the return. I'd bet he would not be so nice as to compensate you if this came up. Business is business, this guy is rediculous.

Nickathome · Post by **Nickathome** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:02 am

anthony manzella wrote:TO PUT ON THE BILL OF SALE [ SOLD AS IS] DATE & AMOUNT. I WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN AS KIND HEARTED AS YOU, MY HAT GOES OFF TO YOU !

Exactly what I'd have done, and have done in the past. I sold my old pop-up trailer to a guy, and I drew up a simple note that stated "buyer is aware of any known defects as assumes full responsibility". I signed and he signed, this way any problems, and I have a legal document to present as evidence in a cour t of law.

I too would not have given the guy's money back. No telling what he played with or destroyed that won't be known until someone else tears into it.

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