Big Three

[greencom]

There is another element involved here. I work for a large company near the Baltimore area. I commute 135 miles a day in my "crappy" American cars with 130,000 on my Chevy Cavalier and 230,000 on my Ford Taurus. It seems that it is out of style to buy American cars. Even if the cars were just as good as any made anywhere else in the world the people I work with would not buy one, it's just too low class for them, too common. They wouldn't know quality if it bit them on their a**, they only keep a car for three years or so, they want prestige, they want to make a statement and impress their neighbors. An American car? No way for them.
Greencom

[amanco]

I went to the Milwaukee Auto show a year ago, and they were releasing the new Challenger

I am a HUGE Mopar fan. When I saw the first new Challenger at the Mopar Nationals two years ago, a tear instantly came to my eye. The car is awesome to say the least. Now when I see one at a dealer's lot, a tear also comes to my eye as I think "What a terrible time to release this incredible car." Now the whole industry is in jeopardy not just a car.

Even if the cars were just as good as any made anywhere else in the world the people I work with would not buy one, it's just too low class for them, too common

I for one will own an '07 or '08 Chrysler 300 M (When I can afford one) This is totaly my own opinion, but the 300 M has got to be one of the "classiest" cars I have seen with an American name since the 1950's.

[Nickathome]

Well, the automakers have shoved it up our arses for so many years with huge prices on poorly made vehicles, I say let them all go to HELL! I vote a big NO for a bailout........

I'm no big fan of foreign made vehicles, and have so far bought American, but from now on my money will go to the best quality I can afford, and if that is an American vehicle fine, if not, then I'll drive foreign.

Maybe its time the big 3 got a real slap in the ass to get them to see the error of their ways. No bailouts let them sink or swim on their own. Its time for the taxpayers to say ENOUGH!

[Joe L]

Well, you all have hit on money hungry CEO's, unions, foreign car makers, but you're missing one of the big ones-the Federal Government. Throw in the state governments as well. The Governors of Michigan and Ohio are crying for the Fed Bailout, but oddly enough they don't suggest to suspend state sales tax on new vehicle purchases. Oddly enough the Feds aren't talking about relaxing some of the idiotic standards and regulations they have pushed thru over the years, or endless taxes on the entire industry. As with most things, let the Feds get involved and you get all sort of 'dynamics' with it that isn't really productive. Lets face it, the Feds are trying to regulate the industry under, bailout or not, its inevitable.

[Josh]

I went to the Milwaukee Auto show a year ago, and they were releasing the new Challenger

I am a HUGE Mopar fan. When I saw the first new Challenger at the Mopar Nationals two years ago, a tear instantly came to my eye. The car is awesome to say the least. Now when I see one at a dealer's lot, a tear also comes to my eye as I think "What a terrible time to release this incredible car." Now the whole industry is in jeopardy not just a car.

I felt the exact same way. My jaw dropped and I stood there and stared at it for almost 20 minutes. It's the most beautiful car I have ever seen, and the potential it has is just unstoppable.

check this clip out. A twin turbo 6.1L on 5 PSI of boost. Makes over 525 HP at the wheels. Thats on a stock engine. They're building a new forged guts engine to go in it and turn the boost up. It's gonna be an animal, to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1NLyRbmIA

I want mine in black:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vNrr925J9Q

I also agree with you on a 300M. Also a fantastic car, and the same power cna be had from one of them as well.

[m-37Bruce]

GM has more than one million retirees and dependents to provide for. Their union retiree payroll far exceeds their productive payroll. I say let them burn also. You can only chew on the hand that feeds you for so long. It is the only way they will learn.

I agree wholeheartedly school is now in session!
My Mom, (rest her sole) worked for GM a key punch programmer for 37 years, younger bro still works there, Broening Hwy for almost 35 now, laid off almost half of that.
When Mom's passed, we were left a BOAT load of gm common stock, that was the good part, the bad part was she passed in 87' that when gm tanked the first time, each share plummeted in value by 1/2 to 55 $. Wish I had sold faster, what it's trading at now I haven't a clue?
Lil bro took a hit as well, his salary went the same way the stock went, by 1/2!
Where this is going to end is anybodies guess? I just hate to see it happen....

[Barley Pop]

the biggest issue I have with this entire mess is no accountability, no one being held responsible and we the people are funding the future mess. The blame falls on big government catering to special interest groups and greedy corporate America. We are screwed.

or then again it will all be fine we have Oboma, he has promised everyone everything.

Barley...

[MSeriesRebuild]

the biggest issue I have with this entire mess is no accountability, no one being held responsible and we the people are funding the future mess. The blame falls on big government catering to special interest groups and greedy corporate America. We are screwed.

or then again it will all be fine we have Oboma, he has promised everyone everything.

Barley...

The fact that he has promised everyone everything is what worries me.

[refit1701]

I am sure there will be quite a few really disappointed Obama voters in a year or so. He lead so many on with his empty talk.

I was talking to one of his supporters at work yesterday. She said that she was excited about free healthcare and that I should be happy cause I'm getting a tax break.

I asked her if she remembered the Bush tax cuts. She replied that she did. I pointed out that they expire in 2010 and *everyone* will get a tax increase. She stood there with her mouth open while she realized what that meant.

Of course, I seriously doubt she pays any taxes to begin with.

[m-37Bruce]

I am sure there will be quite a few really disappointed Obama voters in a year or so. He lead so many on with his empty talk.

I was talking to one of his supporters at work yesterday. She said that she was excited about free healthcare and that I should be happy cause I'm getting a tax break.

I asked her if she remembered the Bush tax cuts. She replied that she did. I pointed out that they expire in 2010 and *everyone* will get a tax increase. She stood there with her mouth open while she realized what that meant.

Of course, I seriously doubt she pays any taxes to begin with.

I work on a campus that supported him w/ reckless abandon! I have had to bite my lip more than once! The students on the other hand are encouraged to be verbose and verbalize any and all thought......w/o any consequences?
I suppose they will like all of the changes?

[Barley Pop]

this man is an idiot, voted in by people that feel the Constitution is there to provide them with free education, free housing, cheese, monthly checks, while the rest of us pay for it. We are screwed here folks. The Democratic party picked him over hilary clintoon because she made Palin-Mclaim look good. Now they think they can put him on a short lease and control the office as well. What is he going to do when with in the first six months a terrorist attack of great magnitude strikes the US abroad not on homeland soil as a test to see if he folds like a cheap lawn chair and runs like clintoon did in Somalia or pushes the threat even deeper into the sandbox then we dare go.

biden who is responsible for the assault weapons ban and oboma who spews from both books of Marxist-Nazi as well as the Koran you can kiss your 2nd amendment rights away has gone from far left to center of right. Still waitng on the suit filed in PA. that asked if indeed what country does he hold as a born citizen questioning his US status that would keep him from being president, tick tock, tick tock, since to seal his records in Hawaii while seeing an ailing grandmother on and on and on and on.

Get out the lawn chair and a big bag of pocorn folks this is going to be very interesting to say the least. Rant over, my Beer says I gotta go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

Barley...

[MSeriesRebuild]

Well, for the sake of this country I hope you are wrong, but common sense tells me you may have nailed it pretty close on. It will be interesting.

[HingsingM37]

Yea, I feel like those Spartans in "300" digging in and watching that evil Muslim horde approach and our freedom slip away:x

Sadly, there is that old addage "People get the leaders they deserve". Take a look at out "pop" culture. What do you see on magazines at the checkout line? Any American GI's on the covers? Any support of our military in People, Time, SI, TV Guide? The American Flag? No, just scumbag Hollywood types. No wonder a "Hip Leftist" got elected. Our whole culture has become an MTV show.
Look what the media did to a Christian woman trying to run for office. Non-stop attacks 24/7. The ACLU and the left is waging a constant attack on our faith, churches, military,and American values.

As for the big 3, let them suffer. I am in those plants daily and it is a constant war between overpaid management and overpaid workers. Now they want to take my lower middle class income taxes to save these $60-80hr folks. No way! I was in the Chrysler Twinsburg, Oh stamping plant last year. A press was down. We had to deliver a large accumulator. There was a lift truck operator assigned to this press. His only delegated duty was to remove dies from that particular press. It was down and he boldly stated "take your time" as he wouldn't have to work if the line stayed down. He was not allowed to be re-assigned, he could sit on his forklift and do nothing, and get paid for the rest of his shift. Nor was he allowed to unload our truck! I had to find a "milright" lift truck driver to unload the part to get his line up. When I go to Ford to deliver parts, the foreman meets me at the security gate to get his bearings, because "receiving sometimes dosen't check stuff in for days".There ya go.

[Lifer]

With regard to the "Christian woman," y'all ought to look at Article II of our constitution. I have nothing against having a female president at some time in the future, but until that article is amended, no woman could be sworn in as President of the United States. You'd think the nominating committees for both major political parties would have realized that.

Again, with regard to the "Christian woman," I'd choose almost any woman over that particular one!

[HingsingM37]

Lifer,
I was referring to Sarah VP, not Hillary President