24 volt starter

rtquig · Post by **rtquig** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:17 pm

Hello everyone, my first post here. I have a 53 M 37 and my starter is not working, looks like the gear is stuck and won't disengage. I had a parts truck and took the starter out of it and have owned it for 6 years and decided that rather than put it in, I would have it rebuilt first. When I took it to the shop, the owner told me he could rebuild the starter, but the top half with the spring on it (newer model) doesn't have parts for it any more. I tried the obivous places, Vintage Dodge, Midwest, Adirondack and can't find just the top piece. The one I have may still be good but I don't want to go thru the trouble of replacing it and have the top piece be bad. Any suggestions as to where I can find the part?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Rich

98taco3 · Post by **98taco3** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:36 pm

Are you talking about the bendix that engages the gear to the flywheel? If so i saw one on ebay a few days ago.

rtquig · Post by **rtquig** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:01 am

No, I'm looking for the piece on top of the starter that has a spring, and when you push the starter peddle with your foot, the lever moves the spring with the bolt on it. In the manual they call it the starter switch late type.

cuz · Post by **cuz** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:06 am

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hbb · Post by **hbb** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:44 am

Rich;
That piece should be on a military replacement/Donner starter if anyone has one that you could by or give you! is that what your looking for?There are starters that people have as parts pieces and maybe someone will chime in and give you a hand at this time I personally do not have one.
hb

rtquig · Post by **rtquig** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:02 am

Much appreciated! It is the one in the second and third picture "switch Assy 8328134". I have one last vendor to try in the area "Beachwood Canvas". I'll call in Monday during business hours and see if he has one. Mine is probably good, but having to take out the distributor and oil check tube I would like to do it only once if possible. Thanks again for your help.

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:28 am

AB Linn had the last new ones I know of as a separate item.

The switch is very easily disassembled for cleaning and inspection. Most of the time the contacts are what get burned and worn out; many times they can be cleaned up and reinstalled and have quite a long service life left in them. It is also not a big deal to actually make new contacts that will work fine in an otherwise serviceable switch assembly.

rtquig · Post by **rtquig** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:59 am

The spring is all the way in and will not come back out. I don't know if this means the bendix on the starter will not realease and the starter is frozen or not. The starter is still in the truck and I'm having a spare one rebuilt except for the starter assy. Reading the manual I don't know if I will be able to get the distributor to DC to pull it out. I have never taken a distributor out before and am a little leary to do it. I'm sure I can get a mechanic friend of mine to help but I want to have the rebuilt starter ready to go back in. Again, thanks for the repies they are very helpfull. I have owned the truck for 8 years now and want to get it back on the road. I drove it up till the starter went last spring and now the battiers are dead and need replaced also.

Also by knowing the part number, I was able to see Midwest has it in stock. I sent John an email and will follow it up with a phone call.

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:40 pm

I wouldn't buy a switch until I knew what the stuck Issue was, you may be spending cash for nothing. If the spring has broken, obtaining a replacement is easy, as the switch assembly itself could be perfectly fine. You sound anxious to replace parts before making a solid diagnosis, most often not a wise decision. Switch disassembly and cleaning is a good starting place. Have built many starters, once in a great while, but seldom do we find switches that are beyond repair.

The starter should come out easily without pulling the distributor, only the dipstick tube must go. If you do pull the distributor, no issue as correct installation is easy.

rtquig · Post by **rtquig** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:06 pm

Thanks for the information. The dipstick should come out easy enough, it would be nice not to have to move the distributor. On my parts truck I took the distributor off since it was easy enough and I didn't have to worry about putting it back. I'm going to try to get the starter out one night this week and see what the problem is. I don't want to buy parts that I don't need. The truck has sat too long without my working on it, so I want to get back into it and be able to drive around town in it. It seems when I drive the truck, every man stops what he is doing to wave as I drive by.

I didn't even think of trying AB, I have bought shocks off him a few years back.

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:42 pm

rtquig wrote:Thanks for the information. The dipstick should come out easy enough, it would be nice not to have to move the distributor. On my parts truck I took the distributor off since it was easy enough and I didn't have to worry about putting it back. I'm going to try to get the starter out one night this week and see what the problem is. I don't want to buy parts that I don't need. The truck has sat too long without my working on it, so I want to get back into it and be able to drive around town in it. It seems when I drive the truck, every man stops what he is doing to wave as I drive by.

I didn't even think of trying AB, I have bought shocks off him a few years back.

If we can be of technical assistance, just call or email; happy to help. Charles

rtquig · Post by **rtquig** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:46 pm

Thanks, I appreciate that.

hbb · Post by **hbb** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:28 pm

Rich
Charles advice about spending before you know is great advise! the Bendix drive grease could be just gummed up from sitting! if anyone has experienced such a thing with a g741 Charles has! good luck and let us know what you find.

hb

rtquig · Post by **rtquig** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:39 pm

Thanks for the advice. I just pulled the upper floor board above the shifter to make it easier to get at the starter bolt. Done for tonight. I need to be a bit smaller to fit into the bottom of the floor lol. I don't doubt the bendix could be jamed up with dry grease as I didn't drive the truck a lot and it had to sit outside of the garage for almost 2 years. Now thats its inside I can take my time and do the work.

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