My '52 M37 has wires 8 and 9 out of the regulator. The previous owner had an amp meter but it doesn't work.
What would be best in the cluster?
The easiest to interpret?
New voltmeter and rewire?
Check wires 8 and 9, maybe rewire or new amp meter?
Either way seems just as much work for me.
Amp or Volt gauge for a '52
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Amp or Volt gauge for a '52
Last edited by Rdinatal on Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
1952 M37 - Mods = Locking hubs, battery switch, 2 bank charger, PB, PS, Pertronix SSI, Elect fuel pump w/filter&pressure switch, bikini top, tool box liners, 24v & 12v fused circuits.
Planned: Seatbelts
Planned: Seatbelts

Re: Alt or Volt gauge for a '52
Wires 8 & 9 from the regulator are for an amp meter.
If you want a volt meter, just pick up wire 27 from the instrument cluster (it's grounded through the panel).
If you want a volt meter, just pick up wire 27 from the instrument cluster (it's grounded through the panel).
1951 M37 "Brutus" w/Winch and 251 engine
Re: Alt or Volt gauge for a '52
Yes, thanks.
1952 M37 - Mods = Locking hubs, battery switch, 2 bank charger, PB, PS, Pertronix SSI, Elect fuel pump w/filter&pressure switch, bikini top, tool box liners, 24v & 12v fused circuits.
Planned: Seatbelts
Planned: Seatbelts

Re: Alt or Volt gauge for a '52
A volt meter is a better choice to know what is going on. An ammeter only gives rate. But, because I like to know both level and rate, I have both and mounted the ammeter under the dash in a small panel.
"It may be ugly, but at least it is slow!"
Re: Alt or Volt gauge for a '52
Thank you. I was leaning towards the volt meter.
I read that with a solid state regulator (which it has) the volt meter is required. The wires might be there in the harness but the regulator has nothing on 8 & 9.
Now, if that's true it explains what is going on.
1952 M37 - Mods = Locking hubs, battery switch, 2 bank charger, PB, PS, Pertronix SSI, Elect fuel pump w/filter&pressure switch, bikini top, tool box liners, 24v & 12v fused circuits.
Planned: Seatbelts
Planned: Seatbelts

Re: Amp or Volt gauge for a '52
This post got me thinking that I should do something about my ammeter that does little more than wiggle.
I picked up a working voltmeter from a friend and removed/insulated wires 8 & 9 from the ammeter. I had a 5 wire spider so I plugged 27 into the rear of the voltmeter and it's up and going, BUT I was curious will having 8 & 9 disconnected cause any unforeseen issues?
On another note I think I may have a regulator issue.
*On our initial test at idle the "new" voltmeter is right at the reference mark in the green area of the scale which matches the value of my DVOM of ~28v. *When I rev the engine the voltage drops to around 25v and the needle on the gauge dithers around quite a bit. I did check the grounds and found no issues there.
*Firing up the high beams and brake lamps has little to no effect.
*After running for some minutes the voltage returns to ~28v and the gauge fluctuations subside.
Any ideas what's going on here? It seems my regulator may be cycling or something???? I've put a ton of miles on the truck and have had no issues with the charging system so maybe adding a gauge was a bad idea
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Thanks
Andy
I picked up a working voltmeter from a friend and removed/insulated wires 8 & 9 from the ammeter. I had a 5 wire spider so I plugged 27 into the rear of the voltmeter and it's up and going, BUT I was curious will having 8 & 9 disconnected cause any unforeseen issues?
On another note I think I may have a regulator issue.
*On our initial test at idle the "new" voltmeter is right at the reference mark in the green area of the scale which matches the value of my DVOM of ~28v. *When I rev the engine the voltage drops to around 25v and the needle on the gauge dithers around quite a bit. I did check the grounds and found no issues there.
*Firing up the high beams and brake lamps has little to no effect.
*After running for some minutes the voltage returns to ~28v and the gauge fluctuations subside.
Any ideas what's going on here? It seems my regulator may be cycling or something???? I've put a ton of miles on the truck and have had no issues with the charging system so maybe adding a gauge was a bad idea

Thanks
Andy
Re: Amp or Volt gauge for a '52
I'm on a 12V alternator Andy so I can't help on this one.
Gary
Gary
Cal_Gary
1954 M37 W/W
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1954 M37 W/W
MVPA Correspondent #28500
G741.org Forum member since 2004
Re: Amp or Volt gauge for a '52
I'm on a generator and mechanical regulator. After warmup and the battery has recovered from starting, at idle I'm about 26V. Off idle I'm 28.4V. If I come near stalling the engine I hear the cutout relay cycle and it shows battery voltage.
"It may be ugly, but at least it is slow!"