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Urethane paint ops

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I've settled on Urethane paint but am having a terrible time Googling any solid info on its application or prep work.

Will the Rustoleum Rusty metal primer work as a primer on small items like brackets, bumpers, etc.?

What should I use for a primer on big parts like the bed?

Is Urethane a base coat/ clear coat or is it one application for both?

Or where is a good website that will let me confuse myself further? :D

I can borrow a paint booth and I want to do it myself so I need to make sure I don't screw it up with wrong primer, etc.
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Post by MSeriesRebuild »

Restoleum primer is not suitable, the urethane will wrinkle it up like paint remover. You must use a 2 part urethane primer or the newer water borne primer. Single stage urethane will be easier for you to use. The prep work can't be over stressed. What ever rough spots you leave such as improperly sanded filler, primer, sanding scratches left from using a too course grit paper or not sanding correctly will only be magnified greatly after paint is applied. Don't think the paint will cover any imperfections, it will not, it will be like putting a magnifying glass in front of anything that was over looked & left behind.
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Post by refit1701 »

I won't be doing too much filling as most of the body is ok. I have never liked seeing someone useing 40 grit paper on metal, the scratches are awful.

I was hoping a single stage would be ok.

I'll look for the water borne primer.

Thanks Charles!
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refit1701 wrote:I won't be doing too much filling as most of the body is ok. I have never liked seeing someone useing 40 grit paper on metal, the scratches are awful.

I was hoping a single stage would be ok.

I'll look for the water borne primer.

Thanks Charles!
Be sure you fill any tiny pin holes in what filler you use with tech-flow & wet sand with 400 grit before priming. Wet sand the primer very well with 600 grit watching carefully for any imperfections before top coating. Pin holes will show up through paint & if they are very deep will cause pin pop in your paint finish. Using the correct temp reducer is very important, especially since the weather is warming.
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You've told me more than I have found out surfing the net today. Apparently, painting is a dark art, only taught to those who pass the rigorous initiation rites....

:lol:

Finding the actual paint is not easy either. But I'm going to visit NAPA tommorrow and see what they have.

:lol:

Thanks again!
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MSeriesRebuild wrote:
refit1701 wrote: Be sure you fill any tiny pin holes in what filler you use with tech-flow & wet sand with 400 grit before priming.
Charles,
Would you tell me what Tech-flow is? I tried to Google it, but couldn't find anything that seemed to be related to this topic. Thanks!

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monkeymissile wrote:
MSeriesRebuild wrote:
refit1701 wrote: Be sure you fill any tiny pin holes in what filler you use with tech-flow & wet sand with 400 grit before priming.
Charles,
Would you tell me what Tech-flow is? I tried to Google it, but couldn't find anything that seemed to be related to this topic. Thanks!

regards,
Justin
Tech-flow is a Martin-Senour product, available at NAPA. It is a 2 part filler designed for use in filling tiny imperfections such as pin holes in filler, primer, etc. Works well on top of filler that may be slightly rough for whatever reason so a perfectly smooth surface can be established for top coating. Has many uses in getting that perfect base before final paint. Tech-Flow is the up to date product that replaces the age old glazing putty which was basically primer in a paste form.
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refit1701 wrote:You've told me more than I have found out surfing the net today. Apparently, painting is a dark art, only taught to those who pass the rigorous initiation rites....

:lol:

Finding the actual paint is not easy either. But I'm going to visit NAPA tommorrow and see what they have.

:lol:

Thanks again!
BASF Limco 1-2-3 is the single stage urethane we like to use, look for a BASF dealer in your area. Their website is www.basfrefinish.com
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Tech-flow is a Martin-Senour product, available at NAPA. It is a 2 part filler designed for use in filling tiny imperfections such as pin holes in filler, primer, etc. Works well on top of filler that may be slightly rough for whatever reason so a perfectly smooth surface can be established for top coating. Has many uses in getting that perfect base before final paint. Tech-Flow is the up to date product that replaces the age old glazing putty which was basically primer in a paste form.[/quote]

Thanks very much Charles, appreciate it!
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[quote="MSeriesRebuild
BASF Limco 1-2-3 is the single stage urethane we like to use, look for a BASF dealer in your area. Their website is www.basfrefinish.com[/quote]


Thanks a bunch Charles! You're a huge help!
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Refit 1701,
I just finished painting my windsheild frames with TM9 Ordnance Paint it is a 2 part urethane. I painted it over PPG 2 part epoxy primer. I used the primer over bare metal that was treated with an etching solution. The paint layed down smooth, but like Charles said if there is any imperfections they will only be magnified. It is not rocket science. Just follow the manufacturers recomendations and don't mix products from different manufacturers.
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Post by Lifer »

When I get around to painting mine...if I live that long...it will probably be a "motor pool grade" paint job. I can do a flawless paint job, but I see no point in it for a daily driver MV. These things came from the factory with runs and sags in the paint, so who am I to "improve" on it? Besides, I'm lazy. I just want to be able to drive my M37 for a few years before I croak. I'm not out for a "Best of Show" trophy.
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