voltage regulator

[Cav Trooper]

I was driving the M today and noticed the amp gauge was pegged to the right. My assumption is that the voltage regulator is toast. Are these solid state or do they have points that could stick. I haven't stated to dig into it yet. When I start the truck, the gauge reads in the green for half a minute at most then moves all the way over to the red. Any ideas?

CT

[w30bob]

Hi Cav,

I can't tell you much about the regulator....but is the points type....and not solid state. There's an extensive section in one or the manuals that explains how to work on the regulator. I'll see if I can find it tomorrow.
Here's a video about our regulators on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcTn9uf6Aqg


regards,
bob

[Cav Trooper]

It appears that I don't have that type, must be solid state since it has cooling fins.

Thanks

CT

[52 M-42]

Here is the address and contact info for a place in California that rebuilds the points type voltage regulator.

C P GENERATOR, INC.
1834 S. Figueroa St.
Los Angeles, California 90015 , USA
http://www.cpgenerator.com
phone: 213-746-1060
Fax: 213-746-9469

These people have been doing it for decades. Give them a try.

It's not cheap, but then what is these days?

52 M-42

[w30bob]

Hi Cav,

Yeah, if you have the cooling fins you've got the newer version....which I believe is solid state. I really don't know anything about that one.....but PM Carter....I believe he has one on his M....and that boy is a treasure trove of knowledge.

[w30bob]

Hey Cav,

I just ran across this on eBay....it might be cheaper to buy a new one than have yours fixed....I really don't know.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VOLTAGE-REGULAT ... 35c74b0ee9

regards,
bob

[MSeriesRebuild]

The good quality solid-state regulators are by far the best choice. Direct plug and play change out for the old type too. There are some cheap imports out there also; they do work ok, but are not nearly as good as far as longevity of life is concerned.

[k8icu]

Get your manual out and test the VR to make sure that is the problem. Hate to spend money on a new one only to find that it's something else.

[Cav Trooper]

Unless it's the batteries, I can't see anything else being the problem. All new wiring a four years ago and it all worked until Saturday. I will have the batteries checked today. Truck cranks fine though.

[Cav Trooper]

What can they rebuild on these solid state regs?

[MSeriesRebuild]

Unless it's the batteries, I can't see anything else being the problem. All new wiring a four years ago and it all worked until Saturday. I will have the batteries checked today. Truck cranks fine though.

99.5% chance it will be a malfunctioning regulator when the overcharge condition you described is going on. Attend to it promptly, this condition will kill your generator and batteries in short order if let go.

[m-11]

What can they rebuild on these solid state regs?

The one down side of solid state regulators is that when they fail there is no repair. However, they are more reliable than the older points type. As its been mentioned, there is a lot of cheap crap out there so spend a few extra dollars and get a good quality part. I might suggest load testing each battery individually. One of them could have an internal short. Rare, but it does happen. I just went through this problem with a new battery on one of my other vehicles. Although the needle on my amp gauge would constantly move back and forth. It took me 6 months and finally talked to a guy at the parts house where I bought the battery and he told me it sounds like the battery has a short. Long story short I took the new battery back and he load tested it and it failed. So he gave me a new battery and the problem went away.

[Cav Trooper]

Pulled the batteries and had them load tested. Walmart tested and said they were both bad, went to Autozone and they tested good. Got a new regulator today and installed. Now the amp gage is in the green again.

Thanks for all of the input.

CT

[topellis]

Just adding my 2 cents. When my points regulator went out I bought a solid state one off eBay. I installed it and started it up and the needle went to the green for about thirty seconds then dropped off. Vendor said it is an electrical part no replacement as he said I must have installed it wrong. I bought a take off deuce and a half 60 amp with the regulator built in and never looked back. Not exactly correct but a much better set up with much more amps. It is military and looks original. I had to change my pulley over and got an adapter kit off eBay that the military used when they converted the deuce. Worked good.
Fwiw,
Mark

[MSeriesRebuild]

Just adding my 2 cents. When my points regulator went out I bought a solid state one off eBay. I installed it and started it up and the needle went to the green for about thirty seconds then dropped off. Vendor said it is an electrical part no replacement as he said I must have installed it wrong. I bought a take off deuce and a half 60 amp with the regulator built in and never looked back. Not exactly correct but a much better set up with much more amps. It is military and looks original. I had to change my pulley over and got an adapter kit off eBay that the military used when they converted the deuce. Worked good.
Fwiw,
Mark

This is a very good way of doing it if staying military matters. If it doesn't matter to you, a Delco-Remy 10SI, one wire set up is easy, cheap, and works very reliable.