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Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:10 am
by refit1701
Now that it is show season and I have events lined up before me, I find a roofing nail in a tire. After lugging the thing around all week, searching for someone who is not a weenie to patch it, I guess I have to do it myself.

The tire is loose and not stuck to the ring but doesn't "drop down" below the level of the ring. I have the tire spoon and have used a sledge hammer to wedge it between the tire and ring but it just pops back out when I stop whomping it.

Am I supposed to use a 10 ton press to pry the ring away from the wheel?

I am rapidly headed back to classic cars if I can't get some sense of satisfaction with my truck. Everyone loves it but they don't have to continually repair the thing.

:|

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:18 am
by Carter
Two tire tools are necessary to do the job correctly, one a spoon the other a prying tool like a rolling head bar with a chisel end, stand on the tire to force it down where the ring ends meet, look for the notch in the rim, once located, drive the chisel end into the notch in the ring's right top edge when viewed from above, pry the ring out and up, catching the lower edge if the ring with the spoon and continue prying and lifting the ring around the rim.

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Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:44 am
by Sal
Refit . Here is a old tread that you might find helpful also...

http://www.g741.org/PHPBB/viewtopic.php ... ONS#p25647

Sal
:mrgreen:

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:05 am
by Carter
Sal wrote:Refit . Here is a old tread that you might find helpful also...

http://www.g741.org/PHPBB/viewtopic.php ... ONS#p25647

Sal
:mrgreen:
Forgot all about that one Sal, other than being filled with a large volume of info it is still a interesting read with Cuz and Charles providing the entertainment.

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:26 am
by refit1701
Thanks guys. I could not find that thread in a search and Charles and Wes do make a great debate team.

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:47 am
by MSeriesRebuild
refit1701 wrote:Thanks guys. I could not find that thread in a search and Charles and Wes do make a great debate team.
I never viewed it as a debate team, but more like someone who couldn't be reasoned with under any circumstance would be more appropriate. I did have inside info from a person that I trust highly who had actually met him in person, so it was never like I didn't know something of his character. Just tends to get under my skin when pictures are posted of something totally different (the rim with a solid bead ring and split lock is a good example) in an effort to explain how a given rim design (split lock ring) works. I have dealt with many solid bead ring design rims in the past, they must be dealt with quite differently than the type typically found on M37's.

I don't know what ever happened to the infamous Cuz, all I know is one day he just wasn't here any more. Maybe things with him got like it has with me, I just don't have the time to spend here that I once did.

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:56 pm
by refit1701
I meant no disrespect Charles or for Cuz either. He's sorta dropped out of sight. We need all viewpoints here.

I have sent the tire/wheel to a truck company to have it fixed. I just don't have the free time to experiment with it. Plus I was afraid I would ruin the rim. I'll have more time for learning in the future.

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:40 pm
by DJ
Cuz is alive and well,and doing a great job,in my opinion, in helping many guys with MV related problems.

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:43 pm
by MSeriesRebuild
refit1701 wrote:I meant no disrespect Charles or for Cuz either. He's sorta dropped out of sight. We need all viewpoints here.

I have sent the tire/wheel to a truck company to have it fixed. I just don't have the free time to experiment with it. Plus I was afraid I would ruin the rim. I'll have more time for learning in the future.
None taken, just brought back some memories from the past.

What really did me in with Cuz was this incident. He once wanted a set of used tires we were pulling off of a truck that was getting new radials. I told him he could have them at a given price, not realizing (due to forgetfulness) that I had already offered them to someone else prior (at a lesser cost I might add). When I realized what I had done, the only respectful thing I could do was contact Cuz, tell him of my situation, apologize, then honor my deal with the first man if he still wanted them. First man took them, and of course Cuz didn't like it and reacted in his usual fashion which I won't detail here. I knew then 100% the Cuz that was described to me by a trusted friend was indeed the true Cuz. Water under the bridge now, I hope he is and continues to do well.

Re: Patching a tube....

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:48 pm
by Cal_Gary
I simply don't mess with this job anymore-I farm them out to a tire shop since I don't have the special tools, tire cage, nor the strength and desire to tackle them. Better safe than sorry, and I did tire work on 18 wheelers as a much younger man-it's an acquired skill, and once you have the knowledge to go with the proper tools it can be done.

Hey, that reminds me, I need to get my spare fixed (got the new tube from Wallace Wade last year).

It is acknowledged that some of our forum debates have been legendary, and speaking for all the moderators, it's nice to see everyone getting along (even if it's, at times, difficult to hold one's keyboard in check).
Thanks!
Gary (and Robi, MM, Nivek and Bert)