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pto question
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:35 am
by TOM R
ok we got the nos case and I want to swap over the parts to get this finished but I need the 2 seals for the lower half is there a napa #? or do i have to goto a m37 dealer?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:23 pm
by Lifer
Ummmm...where can I even
find a "M37 dealer?"
If I do find one, whats the NADA trade-in value of a '54 M37 when trading it for a '09 model?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:46 pm
by TOM R
smrt a$$ lol I meant parts dealer

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:43 pm
by MSeriesRebuild
TOM R wrote:smrt a$$ lol I meant parts dealer

We have parts for the PTO.
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:06 am
by TOM R
oops dad just found the pto gasket and seal kit in the parts box in the truckbed, is there a tutorial on the pto rebuild?
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:37 am
by MSeriesRebuild
TOM R wrote:oops dad just found the pto gasket and seal kit in the parts box in the truckbed, is there a tutorial on the pto rebuild?
Not up to date on any tutorial that may exist. I do know after rebuilding many; there are some issues involved in the PTO overhaul in order to get a long running, leak free rebuild. A good thing to remember is this; a part of the PTO gearing is running at all times that the transmission is in motion. This applies even when the transmission & the PTO are in the neutral positions. I say this to stress the utmost importance of doing a top notch rebuild on this component so you don't have a forever dripping component that can be the cause of later issues with the PTO unit itself & is also directly associated with the transmission.
Experienced gear box rebuilding is something you learn has lots of little nitches along the way over time about how to do things that are not covered in any manual. While manuals are a great & necessary tool if you haven't done it before; manuals talk you through a sequence of events necessary to assemble a unit, lots of other small issues that will keep you out of trouble & give you a successful, long lasting rebuild in the end are never brought to light in manual instructions.
Another issue is old or NOS seals. Good advice is don't use them. NOS or old production seals are certainly no good as with age they have deteriorated to the point of no return. Get current production fresh seals if you want a good job. Also, remember to closely check all seal mating surfaces, if you have pits from rust or wear grooving, it will still leak oil no matter how good the seals. Closely check shafts & case bores that are interference fits for roundness & true fits, off key tolerances in these areas will only be trouble & mean a re-do. These intererference fits must also be sealed correctly using the right sealers or oil will eventually find its way out past them. You will learn quickly when dealing with gear boxes that oil leaks don't always originate from areas that involve oil seals & gaskets.
I'll be glad to talk with you concering lessons we have learned along the way if you would care to call the shop next week.
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:22 am
by TOM R
ok thanks charles

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:45 pm
by TOM R
charles can you pm or email me your # thanks
thejerk67@comcast.net 
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:58 pm
by MSeriesRebuild
Shop phone is 704-474-4683
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:44 pm
by TOM R
ok thanks i will try to give you a call tomorow
