trouble installing ring gear
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:37 pm
this is on my civvy power wagon, but probably the same stuff applies.
started with a 52 power wagon, not sure if it was the 218 or 230 engine, got a rebuilt "drop in" engine off ebay and it turns out to be a 251, with a different bell housing. real similar, but not quite the same. so i had to use the old bell housing, to make it all bolt to the transmission, but the old bellhousing spaces the new starter too far away from the ring gear, so they just barely catch, and grind.
i am attempting to install the old ring gear on the new flywheel, but i'm having a hell of a time doing it. cleaned all the burrs off the flywheel, kept it in the freezer for an hour, heated the ring gear in the oven at 350 for half an hour, cannot get it to start.
filed a any spots that looked high on the flywheel, cleaned up the bevel on the ring gear with a grinder, still can't get it started. is there a chance the two ring gears aren't the same size? they are REAL close, but so far i just can't get it started. even built a jig with a bunch of clamps, but of course now my torch is out of fuel...need a new bottle of fuel and i'll keep trying with the clamps and heating with the torch as i go. just need to get it started and i think i can get it to go the rest of the way. unless they made two different sizes of ring gear seats. in which case i'll probably grind out the inside of the gear till i can get it to fit, and then just tack weld it in place to make sure it can't pop loose.
i guess really my question is, is the 146 tooth and the 172 tooth ring gear interchangeable with each other? and if so, do i just need to bake the ring at a higher temp? i read somewhere not to go more than 400 degrees. i can also try leaving the flywheel in the freezer overnight instead of just for an hour, maybe that would help
any ideas?
thanks for all the help!
started with a 52 power wagon, not sure if it was the 218 or 230 engine, got a rebuilt "drop in" engine off ebay and it turns out to be a 251, with a different bell housing. real similar, but not quite the same. so i had to use the old bell housing, to make it all bolt to the transmission, but the old bellhousing spaces the new starter too far away from the ring gear, so they just barely catch, and grind.
i am attempting to install the old ring gear on the new flywheel, but i'm having a hell of a time doing it. cleaned all the burrs off the flywheel, kept it in the freezer for an hour, heated the ring gear in the oven at 350 for half an hour, cannot get it to start.
filed a any spots that looked high on the flywheel, cleaned up the bevel on the ring gear with a grinder, still can't get it started. is there a chance the two ring gears aren't the same size? they are REAL close, but so far i just can't get it started. even built a jig with a bunch of clamps, but of course now my torch is out of fuel...need a new bottle of fuel and i'll keep trying with the clamps and heating with the torch as i go. just need to get it started and i think i can get it to go the rest of the way. unless they made two different sizes of ring gear seats. in which case i'll probably grind out the inside of the gear till i can get it to fit, and then just tack weld it in place to make sure it can't pop loose.
i guess really my question is, is the 146 tooth and the 172 tooth ring gear interchangeable with each other? and if so, do i just need to bake the ring at a higher temp? i read somewhere not to go more than 400 degrees. i can also try leaving the flywheel in the freezer overnight instead of just for an hour, maybe that would help
any ideas?
thanks for all the help!