float level adjustment (and other carb ??)
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:50 am
Hi guys.
I decided I would attempt to rebuild my ETW1 carb myself. I have done this in the past on earlier dodge or Willy's jeep 1 barrel carbs, and they were definatly more simple.. with no governor either. this had more parts.
Anyway, after rebuilding the best I could, and putting it back on the truck, it did run better, but only when in the higher RPM state. and at NO load...
At idle, I am getting popping and missing at the exhaust, I obviuosly have got some thing wrong. Perhaps the float level? *( it did this before the build hence why I attempted to rebuild in the first place)
Another performance observation...at idle, and then a quick "punch" of the throttle, it wants to hesitate, or sounds like its dying or ready to quit, which indicates to me anyway that maybe there are still issues with the accelerator pump area of the workings..
So, the carb. this is what I did:
I got what appeared to be a very good quality repair kit with all the parts. I took it down to the point of where I felt comfortable. For instance. the bottom of the accelerator pump, there was a split ring, or spring, holding down the little check balls. I did NOT take that out, or the balls, as I could not see how I could do this with the tools I have.
I did clean every orrific I could get a can of carb cleaner into, and I couldnt see any place that I didnt spray into that did not shoot out somewhere. so I beleived I am good. But then again, I may still have clogged passages.
I see where the accelorator pump is activated via vaccumm, and its not mechanical, like past carbs I have worked on, so perhaps me not taking out every part resulted in a poor running truck. or at least that condition at a quick jab of the throttle leaves it wanting to choke out.
Second the float level. I didnt know the level or even how to set it, so left the float alone (now I remember back the truck always popped ocationaly at the exhaust, at certain times, not always. ) could a high choke level cause a popping at the exhaust at idle? it dont do this at higher RPM's so I feel maybe its not valve issues.. (I hope!!)
how is the float adjusted? hang the carb upside down and the measurments is how much, taken from what point, the edge of the carb body to the float as its suspended upside down? is this how its done?
lastly.. I had a small rubber "o" ring in the bottom of the step up piston... it didnt appear to be installed in any of the grooves on the brass step. looked like it was just in the bottom of the cavity that the step up piston goes into.
Is that correct? it just sits at the bottom of the cavity> if so, how in heck can that do anything to help the piston? I dont get it.how is it installed? in the bottom of that cavity?
last issue. I took for a quick spin, whick left me stranded
luckily just on the dirt road near the cabin.
I hit a slight bump on the dirt road, and it just died.. No restarting. Out comes the mighty cletrac to haul up the hill and back home.
Let it sit a tad and it starts. dont know if I flooded it? didnt smell any abnormal gas that indicated a flooding occured... so not sure.
I am begining to wonder if the float level is WAY too high, causing flooding? that and the ocational pop at the exhaust. or is this a result of a float TOO low? not getting enough fuel?
any insight from those who do better at working on carbs would be appreciated.!!!??
(OR Ill just order a newly rebuilt carb from one of the many suppliers and be done with it!!!)
On a side note, I thought that maybe I was missing something, so I pulled and replaced EACH plug. I had them for awhile, waiting for the tiem to replace.. this seemed like a good time to at least eiminate that possibly being the issue. I gapped them to .025" and installed. Nope.. no change.
I decided I would attempt to rebuild my ETW1 carb myself. I have done this in the past on earlier dodge or Willy's jeep 1 barrel carbs, and they were definatly more simple.. with no governor either. this had more parts.
Anyway, after rebuilding the best I could, and putting it back on the truck, it did run better, but only when in the higher RPM state. and at NO load...
At idle, I am getting popping and missing at the exhaust, I obviuosly have got some thing wrong. Perhaps the float level? *( it did this before the build hence why I attempted to rebuild in the first place)
Another performance observation...at idle, and then a quick "punch" of the throttle, it wants to hesitate, or sounds like its dying or ready to quit, which indicates to me anyway that maybe there are still issues with the accelerator pump area of the workings..
So, the carb. this is what I did:
I got what appeared to be a very good quality repair kit with all the parts. I took it down to the point of where I felt comfortable. For instance. the bottom of the accelerator pump, there was a split ring, or spring, holding down the little check balls. I did NOT take that out, or the balls, as I could not see how I could do this with the tools I have.
I did clean every orrific I could get a can of carb cleaner into, and I couldnt see any place that I didnt spray into that did not shoot out somewhere. so I beleived I am good. But then again, I may still have clogged passages.
I see where the accelorator pump is activated via vaccumm, and its not mechanical, like past carbs I have worked on, so perhaps me not taking out every part resulted in a poor running truck. or at least that condition at a quick jab of the throttle leaves it wanting to choke out.
Second the float level. I didnt know the level or even how to set it, so left the float alone (now I remember back the truck always popped ocationaly at the exhaust, at certain times, not always. ) could a high choke level cause a popping at the exhaust at idle? it dont do this at higher RPM's so I feel maybe its not valve issues.. (I hope!!)
how is the float adjusted? hang the carb upside down and the measurments is how much, taken from what point, the edge of the carb body to the float as its suspended upside down? is this how its done?
lastly.. I had a small rubber "o" ring in the bottom of the step up piston... it didnt appear to be installed in any of the grooves on the brass step. looked like it was just in the bottom of the cavity that the step up piston goes into.
Is that correct? it just sits at the bottom of the cavity> if so, how in heck can that do anything to help the piston? I dont get it.how is it installed? in the bottom of that cavity?
last issue. I took for a quick spin, whick left me stranded

I hit a slight bump on the dirt road, and it just died.. No restarting. Out comes the mighty cletrac to haul up the hill and back home.
Let it sit a tad and it starts. dont know if I flooded it? didnt smell any abnormal gas that indicated a flooding occured... so not sure.
I am begining to wonder if the float level is WAY too high, causing flooding? that and the ocational pop at the exhaust. or is this a result of a float TOO low? not getting enough fuel?
any insight from those who do better at working on carbs would be appreciated.!!!??
(OR Ill just order a newly rebuilt carb from one of the many suppliers and be done with it!!!)
On a side note, I thought that maybe I was missing something, so I pulled and replaced EACH plug. I had them for awhile, waiting for the tiem to replace.. this seemed like a good time to at least eiminate that possibly being the issue. I gapped them to .025" and installed. Nope.. no change.