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Hows it going guys? Finally moving again on my truck and have run into a bit of a snag. My brake lines were a cobbled up mess and were obviously routed incorrectly. I have a new set of lines for it but am a bit confused when it comes to their routing and the Ord 9 hasnt been much help as the pictures are fairly zoomed out.

Does anyone have a better diagram for brake and fuel line routing? perhaps someone took a bunch of photos during their resto? Anything would be appreciated, Ill get it figured out eventually but would like to avoid confusion as much as possible, I need all the help I can get sometimes haha

I followed TM9-8031-2 and TM9-8030. These manuals showed the routing for brake lines, fuel lines, and vent lines. Pictures covered the whole frame but you have to look at a few pictures to get the full layout. Bundling the lines from the master cylinder forward on the driver's side is the hardest part.

Is there a TM or parts listing for the various brake and fuel line lengths? I am working through a mid life on my truck and from the look of it, the lines need to be replaced. I know the usual vendors have kits, but I'd rather build it up myself because of shipping and the accursed 'brokerage' fees that UPS and others charge for Canadian destinations.

Jess

I'm about half way myself in installing new brake lines. In addition to the manuals that Ray noted, I found Figure 63 from the parts manual (TM 9 2320-21-34P or 20P) really very helpful. Figure 18 shows the fuel lines.

I kinda went another way with the fuel lines in that I ran a single continuous line from the tank pick-up all the way to the pump. I used the NiCopp (for both fuel and brake lines) and ran the fuel line like you would snake romex. It worked, but was difficult. Probably some draw backs I'll find out about later.

Yes, the repair TMs, (TM 9 2320-212-34P and 20P, don't know what is the difference between them) does list the actual line lengths. I used these for the brake lines (at least for the ones I've done so far) and they do seem to match the actual lengths. I did a spreadsheet for the brake lines and I'll try to attach it.

hwo1990 wrote:I'm about half way myself in installing new brake lines. In addition to the manuals that Ray noted, I found Figure 63 from the parts manual (TM 9 2320-21-34P or 20P) really very helpful. Figure 18 shows the fuel lines.

I kinda went another way with the fuel lines in that I ran a single continuous line from the tank pick-up all the way to the pump. I used the NiCopp (for both fuel and brake lines) and ran the fuel line like you would snake romex. It worked, but was difficult. Probably some draw backs I'll find out about later.

Is this the stuff you used, or something like it? http://www.fedhillusa.com I'm planning on using it if I ever get around to redoing my brakes. The hodge podge of steel and fuel injection tubing on by truck could also be tidied up with uncoupled metal lines

hwo1990 wrote:Yes, the repair TMs, (TM 9 2320-212-34P and 20P, don't know what is the difference between them) does list the actual line lengths. I used these for the brake lines (at least for the ones I've done so far) and they do seem to match the actual lengths. I did a spreadsheet for the brake lines and I'll try to attach it.

Thanks for posting the list. I have the Repair manuals but only a few TMs so this helps a lot. I was going to use stainless but there are easier options available now and maybe even made up to length.

Jess

hwo1990 wrote:Yes, the repair TMs, (TM 9 2320-212-34P and 20P, don't know what is the difference between them) does list the actual line lengths. I used these for the brake lines (at least for the ones I've done so far) and they do seem to match the actual lengths. I did a spreadsheet for the brake lines and I'll try to attach it.

the spreadsheet is helpful! thank you.

If you wanted to roll your own, here are some helpful part numbers for armor coil lines. I had just run across these and thought I would share.
Mark
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Length // Balkamp/NAPA // Edelmann //Everco
8" BK 8131187 // 3308ST //BA308
12" BK 8131188 // 3312ST //BA312
20" BK 8131189 // 3320ST // BA320
30" BK 8131190 // 3330ST // BA330
40" BK 8131191 // 3340ST // BA340
51" BK 8131192 // 3351ST // BA351
60" BK 8131193 // 3360ST // BA360
Union 302X3 // 123300 //300B

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Length Balkamp/NAPA Edelmann Everco
20" BK 8131195 3420ST BA420
30" BK 8131196 3430ST BA430
40" BK 8131197 3440ST BA440
51" BK 8131198 3451ST BA451
60" BK 8131199 3460ST BA460
Union 302X4 123400 300C

Hi ZGjethro,

Sorry I missed your question about the brand of nickel-copper alloy tubing that I used. I bought the NiCopp brand from either Napa or Autozone. The manufacturer is: http://agscompany.com/product-category/ ... es/nicopp/

It looks like the Fedhill/Cunifer line is the same or very similar.

I used it for the new fuel line that I installed and am using it for the new brake lines. I considered all of the options, i.e. steel, coated steel, steel w/ the spring armor, pre-bent sets from VPW etc. I settled on the NiCopp because it looked like I could be successful in making quality and safe double-flares without very expensive tooling and without a lot of practice. I found a very good hand flaring tool from Sears that was made in USA and works very well.
Let me know if you want more information.

- Hugh