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legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:11 pm
by ZGjethro
Since our trucks have factory installed bed seats, and we pre-date mandatory seat belt laws, does anyone have an any experience with law enforcement officers on this topic? I am getting troop seats soon, mostly since they are a cool option. I just wondered if they are legal today. I know a guy on this forum who has a more modern bench seat installed in the bed, and he has no issues here in Colorado.

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:35 am
by refit1701
It varies from state to state. I only plan to use mine in parades at slow speeds so it's not much of an issue.

I don't think I'd want to ride in it without a bed cover at higher speeds.

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:50 am
by w30bob
ZG,

I think this link answers your question.................

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/laws/cargoareas

regards,
bob

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:07 am
by Kaegi
the states have various laws but the seats are a factory install so state law is trumped by federal which says vehicles are legal on the road the way they came from the factory. eg adding a second tail light is not a legal requirement or adding seat belts to vehicles built before 1967 is not a legal requirement. so if the truck came with seats and was designated as a troop carrier as well as cargo carrier I don't think a ticket would hold up.

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:38 pm
by k8icu
I personally would not want to sit on the troops seats and tool down a road at 35-40 mph. My old butt couldn't take it. Now say I was using the truck to transport folks from the front gate to a rear area a .25 mile away for an event then load them up and go at 5-10 mph no problem or in a parade like was mentioned before. If you do carry someone down the highway then I'd recommend the cargo cover and the safety strap so they don't fall out.

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:37 pm
by w30bob
Kaegi,

I'm not so sure of what you say. Federal law states the trucks are legal to be operated on roads in the condition they were built, but does not state what is considered safe operation..........that's left up to the states. Just because the truck was built with rear seats in the bed doesn't mean it's legal to use them today. No pickup trucks have seatbelts in the bed, and certain states will not allow you to ride in the bed unless secured by them.....that's the state's law. So I doubt you could argue in court that you should allow people to ride in the bed of your F150 without seatbelts simply because the truck didn't come from the factory with seatbelts in the bed. The good news is most states will issue a verbal warning for first time offenders.

Another thing to consider................I doubt most MV insurance companies will allow you to transport people in the bed......except for parades probably. People should call and check.

regards,
bob

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:47 pm
by Kaegi
I didn't mean seatbelts in the bed I just used the seatbelt law as an example. no vehicles built before 1967 are required to have seatbelts. States cannot make you install seatbelts or other safety equipment on vehicles unless it was federally required at the time of production. If the seats in the bed are there then they would be legal to use otherwise no old vehicle would be legal for many reasons.

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:20 pm
by ZGjethro
Bob, thanks for that link. I'd be legal if the tail gait was up. Then again, is the bed of an M37 a cargo area when it was designed as a troop transport vehicle?

I have been asked to drive the wedding party (groom, bride and close friends) around town after the ceremony, but I don't want to get cited.

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:53 pm
by JimC
Tell the local police chief or mayor what you want to do and why. I'll bet you get permission.

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:45 pm
by DJ
My son and his bride used my truck for there wedding trip from the church to the reception . He drove ,she rode shotgun ,with the wedding party in back, eight of them. I called the local police ,they said they had to be seated and over eighteen. This was in Wis. FWIW, it was my daughter inlaw's idea to use the truck!

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:03 pm
by ZGjethro
When my sister in law got married five years ago I drove them and the wedding party around town after the wedding. I had hay bales in back for seats. The truck spent time in a fire dept and has a siren which just screams louder the longer you hold the button. If I didn't have problems then, I doubt I will have any problems in the future. It is a small town with 20mph speed limits off the main highway. 25 on the highway

Re: legality of truck bed passenger carry

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:47 pm
by DJ
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