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Hi Guys,

I know painting has been discussed on here in the past (and is probably a touchy subject), but I need to learn myself a bit about it. I know there are primarily 2 main sources for MV paint, Gillespie and another who's name I can't remember, that always advertise in Supply Line. I remember reading that neither paint comes with a hardener, nor does the supplier recommend one. I remember that because that caught my attention. I realize that modern paints are more durable than before.....but the thought of not using a hardener just doesn't sound right to me. But what I do like is they sell their MV paints in spray cans and claim it's the same paint.

Where I'm going with this is I'd like to start glass beading and painting all the small parts of my truck while I'm stuck inside due to the weather. Then when weather breaks I can paint the bigger stuff outside. If the paints provided by those two suppliers (without hardener) is really good stuff I'd use it. But if it's no better than Rustoleum in terms of durability than I'll just wait for better weather and spray with a detail gun with paint that uses a hardener.

I suspect you guys have experience with a variety of paints so I'm asking for your advice. If anyone from those two companies is on this forum I'm not putting down your product........I'm just trying to understand if it's the best for the application.

One other question......why don't people just use current automotive paint (PPG, DuPont, Sikkens, etc) color matched to whichever OD you want with a semi-flat additive? Aren't those the latest and greatest paints available?

thanks,
bob

I used TM9 Ordnance Products paint (color 24087) which does come with a hardener.

Their web page is: http://www.tm9ordnance.com/index.asp

It's not cheap, it does not come in spray cans, and it is one tough paint.

52 M-42

Forget the rattle cans, same paint, totally dif finish. I use Gillespie with Martin-Senour hardener, I like the gloss, it eventually will go matt and the finish is very hard. I cannot remember the exact formula/ratio, I do have written down in the shed. A few guys here have used the Rustoleum with good/great results, but like most things preparation is key.

Give Mark Dodd at RAPCO a call-he'll square you away on the paint.
Gary

I used Arvoe on my first M37. Had very poor results. Color changed every time I shot another part of the vehicle.
And..... the Arvoe paint never wanted to dry. Three or more months after shooting it I could still put a finger nail
mark in the surface. Called the factory.... no help. Finally removed all the Arvoe and did it over again in Gillespie.

You could call Gillespie in Longview, TX. and get their opinion on using hardeners. As you already know, hardeners
will add more gloss, which may not be desirable. Ask Gillespie about that too. You might also consider a flatener
with the hardener but then you become a chemist trying to achieve the exact look that you want.

Gillespie and Arvoe are popular only because of low price. It's not the best product out their compared to DuPont,
Sherwin-Williams, etc. but then you're not paying $125.00 ++ per gallon.

Do a search on this site and get volumes of info.

JB

The Gillispie paint that can be purchased in the spray can is the same paint that you get in the gallon. Rapco makes the spray cans up as needed. I've used Gillispie for years and have enjoyed it. It is easy to use the color stays and doesn't fade and IMHO because it's not as hard as modern automotive paint (i.e. epoxy paint with hardner) it doesn't chip as easily as modern paints do.

As stated above you can get automotive paint but your wallet is going to be alot lighter when your done getting a gallon of paint, the hardner, the catalyst etc.

I've used Arvoe it sucks. I haven't used TM9 so I can not comment on it.

Hi Bob,
I can offer no credible advice of my own on the subject of painting M.V.'s, However if you wander over to steel soldier and type "Behr house paint" or "House paint" into the search box there is a very very long thread on the subject of painting M.V.'s.

Best,

Kelley

I got mine from AJP(Army Jeep Parts) Its GCI paint. Im not using hardner. It comes in spray cans also. Lays down nice and looks good. cant say how durable because I havent finished the project yet. Cost is $133 for 2 gallons including shipping and hazardous fees.the link below will take you to AJP site.
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www. ... ctZ5n7L_Jw

Mix......your truck looks great!!

thanks for the pics,
bob