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Even though I am moving a lot slower than I wished I was moving a head until today. I had bought two new re-po inner windows and the last few days struggled to remove the top hinge screws, not fun BTW. Today I started to strip off the hood prop and broken clip and saw what I'll describe and show the pics. Ever since I have owned the truck I noticed the weld on extension to one side of the outer frame didn't right. This is the part that has a slight flair out and carries the window seal. Also I could never get the door adjusted right, but I just thought it was the rotten and racked tub. The photos show how one side looks like it was tacked on wrong back at Dodge. Any ideas Gents, or do I pack up till I can save more $$$

Following two pics Right Side bottom





The next two are Left Side of the frame

Wayne. Cant you cut the old tack welds adjust the upright and re-weld it. Or is the frame that far gone ?

Sal

Sal wrote:Wayne. Cant you cut the old tack welds adjust the upright and re-weld it. Or is the frame that far gone ?

Sal

I guess at this point I might as well try, since as I stated in the title I'm broke (the frame also). One price I got on a used one was more than I saw any sold on ebay. I also found the reason it was tacked and welded on cock-eyed. In production the window pivot bracket must have been weld on the frame prior to the piece in question. I can see a small piece of splatter that kept the extension from sitting all the way home.

I did my windshields a few years back, and had I had it to do over again I would have left the hinges in place and just slid the new housings into place. I snapped all but two of those screws, learned the hard way that they actually sit in a free-moving inner channel that only grabbing with a small easy-out allowed me to drill out and re-tap each channel opening-one of the most frustrating jobs I've had on my M37.
Gary

Cal_Gary wrote:I did my windshields a few years back, and had I had it to do over again I would have left the hinges in place and just slid the new housings into place. I snapped all but two of those screws, learned the hard way that they actually sit in a free-moving inner channel that only grabbing with a small easy-out allowed me to drill out and re-tap each channel opening-one of the most frustrating jobs I've had on my M37.
Gary

I felt the same after I started having a few snap. What I found out after getting one hinge off was that, at some time in the past the hinge was off and one hole position in the frame was welded shut. That's fine but why wasn't a 10-32 hole tapped? This might have to do with why I finally figured out the offset wiper motor. It turns out offset was early deuce glass.
To add to my hinge woes, the inside tapped piece on one side came lose from the factory pop rivets and it floating around in the frame.

I had the same problems when I was doing mine. Must be a common thing on these Frames. After re-taping all the window hinge screw holes I used S/S screws and silicone between the top hinge and window frame, Because I didn't have the seal that goes there.


Sal

Looks like you either have a Friday afternoon truck or a Monday morning truck. Either in a hurry to head home or hung over when they came to work. If it was me I would cut and reweld to make it right. What's the worse that can happen you screw it all up and have to folk out the money for a new one? What's the best that can happen you fix it right and you save a bunch of money and all is good? Kind of like my cab floor and subframe. Everyone told me to scrap it and tried to sell me cabs that had the same amount of rust just in differnet locations for large sums of money. I took a shot and rebuilt what I had...so far so good. I say goi for it and fix it!

UP-Date: Today I removed the twisted piece. Believe me it was really racked as with the weather strip channel removed and laying a 2' level on it showed how bad. I used a spot weld cutter I had bought from Eastmans years ago and my die grinder with a cut off wheel for the outside welds. It is now where it should be and if I hadn't run out of Argon it would be finished.

Most of the time not having gas is a good thing Sorry couldnt resist

k8icu wrote:Looks like you either have a Friday afternoon truck or a Monday morning truck. Either in a hurry to head home or hung over when they came to work. If it was me I would cut and reweld to make it right. What's the worse that can happen you screw it all up and have to folk out the money for a new one? What's the best that can happen you fix it right and you save a bunch of money and all is good? Kind of like my cab floor and subframe. Everyone told me to scrap it and tried to sell me cabs that had the same amount of rust just in differnet locations for large sums of money. I took a shot and rebuilt what I had...so far so good. I say goi for it and fix it!

Now your comment on the build day. You forgot one important part about ordering a new car / truck in the 50s ,60s which the yougin's won't know of. NEVER order a new vehicle that would be built during the start of deer season in MI.

Wayne64 wrote:Now your comment on the build day. You forgot one important part about ordering a new car / truck in the 50s ,60s which the yougin's won't know of. NEVER order a new vehicle that would be built during the start of deer season in MI.

Your right I did forget about that! I'm glad to hear that your window frame is going back together correctly.

Hey Wayne, I just finished replacing the channel on the drivers side, it turned out great, I did have some issues trying to attach the weld-nut to the top of the channel, I ended up boxing the top and welding a nut to the inside.





My welding skills are not quite where they need to be, but it worked & hasn't fallen off yet.