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unit numbers

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:04 pm
by Tony
I would like to decode the unit markings on the front bumper,the #'s are 50[2'' triangel]1f258 b163 serial # 2420971.Also is there any way to tell if those are the correct unit #'s for that truck and is there any way to find out where that was used in the states? thanks Tony

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:27 am
by pfrederi
Are the letters really lower case??

B163 would be Truck 163 in B Company and would be on the Drivers side of the front bumper.

Do you have a picture?

Check the rear Bumperette also

Is the serial number you quote the number on the hood (That is USA number) or the number stamped on the frame (and on glove box door data palte)

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:25 am
by Cal_Gary
If my old Army memory serves me correctly, the 50 with triangle would be 50th Armored division, and the 1F258 would be 1st of the 258th Field Artillery....

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:17 am
by tmbrwolf
I'll second that 50th Armor Div, 1st battalion 258th field artillery, bravo battery, truck 163.

serial number

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:45 pm
by Tony
The serial on the glove box door is 80023692,the USA number is 2420971

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:04 am
by pfrederi
50th Armored div was a National Guard Unit based in NJ and Vermont.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... y/50ad.htm

The 258 was on organic artillery unit.


1/258th History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Battal ... _States%29

More 258th
http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/FA/25 ... giment.htm


The 258th seems to have spent most of its life in NY
From the above and note below it appears your truck probably ended its career in NY (Not NJ or VT) as the 258th was originally in a NY Division that was downsized and put under the 50th

In the late 1950s, continued Cold War expansion of the National Guard’s armored units resulted in the conversion of New York’s 27th Infantry Division into an armored one. But in the late 1960s, reorganization and downsizing of the National Guard resulted in the 27th Armored Division (“Empire”) into an armored brigade assigned to the 50th Armored Division. At the same time, the 36th Infantry Brigade from Texas and the 86th Armored Brigade from Vermont also became part of the 50th Armored Division. The “Jersey Blues” nickname no longer fit, and the division’s shoulder patch was redesigned to remove it.

Made me chuckle ...

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:11 pm
by N1VSM
pfrederi wrote:The 258 was on organic artillery unit.
Living here in granolaville, the term "organic" has a very specific meaning. I can see it now ... launching only hand harvested, free range, Birkenstock wearing, hormone-free produce. Reminds me of some of the stage performances that I have been in. :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:22 pm
by pfrederi
Didn't mean to upset the good residents of granolaville. Only free range 155 rounds were used by the 258th :-)

Actually organic just means they 258th was part of the Division Artillery permanently assiged and a part of the 50th division

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:39 am
by Tony
just want to say thanks for all your help in the unit numbers,thanks again,Tony