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Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:27 pm
by Explorer0863
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:48 pm
by Explorer0863
I haven't welded the patch yet because I want to apply some type of rust control treatment to this area and other hard to reach areas. See attached picture.
I've been reading about POR-15 but I don't have any experience with the product. Its it good? Do you guys have any recommendation of any product that you have used before? Thanks!

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Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:31 am
by NAM VET
I believe first you have "neutralize" rust, then prevent it from coming back. POR and the like have to be properly applied or rust will continue under ir. I think the best site for information and products is KBS, at:
https://www.kbs-coatings.com
Once rust is neutralized, then it can be coated with a product, then painted, and finally, if an interior panel, perhaps some sort of "wax" or the like sprayed on ir. Ir is important to use the right primer before any "paint" is applied, too. There are products that seep into metal seams to seal from water and oxygen, too. Lots of products for each stage. I would buy from the same company, so their products are fully compatible.
So in summary, the steps are:
remove as much rust as possible.
neutralize, prep, prime, paint, and perhaps seal.
Good luck, NV
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:49 am
by Explorer0863
NAM VET wrote:I believe first you have "neutralize" rust, then prevent it from coming back. POR and the like have to be properly applied or rust will continue under ir. I think the best site for information and products is KBS, at:
https://www.kbs-coatings.com
Once rust is neutralized, then it can be coated with a product, then painted, and finally, if an interior panel, perhaps some sort of "wax" or the like sprayed on ir. Ir is important to use the right primer before any "paint" is applied, too. There are products that seep into metal seams to seal from water and oxygen, too. Lots of products for each stage. I would buy from the same company, so their products are fully compatible.
So in summary, the steps are:
remove as much rust as possible.
neutralize, prep, prime, paint, and perhaps seal.
Good luck, NV
Thanks for the link and info NV! I’ll check them out.
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:54 am
by sturmtyger380
Looking at that photo, I can tell you there is rust all along that seam. I would cut out much more than that.
Get as much of the loose rust off or out that you can. Buy some Phosphor Prep and Etch from Home Depot and paint it on keeping it wet for a number of hours. Don’t let it get on your shop floor as it eats concrete.
Rinse it off with water or acetone. Then you can weld in your patch panels.
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:23 am
by Explorer0863
sturmtyger380 wrote:Looking at that photo, I can tell you there is rust all along that seam. I would cut out much more than that.
Get as much of the loose rust off or out that you can. Buy some Phosphor Prep and Etch from Home Depot and paint it on keeping it wet for a number of hours. Don’t let it get on your shop floor as it eats concrete.
Rinse it off with water or acetone. Then you can weld in your patch panels.
Thanks for that info. Is this the product that you are referring to? Can you spray it or brush only?

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Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:35 am
by Explorer0863
Hello everyone! After several months dealing with health issues at the local VA clinic, I am feeling strong enough and sufficiently motivated to continue this project. I started working on the B1 again 2 weeks ago and have made a little progress. Engine is back together and mounted. Yesterday I worked on the transfer case and it’s looking good. Can’t put 6 or 9 hours on it everyday, but a little a time and I’m sure I’ll get to the finish lane. I’ll upload some pictures of the progress soon.
It feels great to be back working on the truck!
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:43 pm
by NAM VET
I know what it is to have health issues, although mine right now are pretty mild. So we hope you stay health, and can continue your restoration.
hal
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:27 pm
by Explorer0863
NAM VET wrote:I know what it is to have health issues, although mine right now are pretty mild. So we hope you stay health, and can continue your restoration.
hal
Thank you, sir, very much. I appreciate that!
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:11 am
by Cal_Gary
Welcome back, Tony, I was wondering about you!
Thanks for checking in,
Gary
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:57 am
by sturmtyger380
Is this the product that you are referring to? Can you spray it or brush only?
Yes that's the stuff! I use a cheap brush and get the rusty metal wet and keep it wet like trying to soak it. Watch out and don't get it on your skin or concrete floor it will start eating the concrete.
Once I feel like the metal has been treated enough I use acetone to rinse it and stop the etching process. If I am not going to weld the metal I make sure it has a good coating of Rustoleum rusty metal primer.
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:33 pm
by Explorer0863
Cal_Gary wrote:Welcome back, Tony, I was wondering about you!
Thanks for checking in,
Gary
Thank you Gary!
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:01 am
by Explorer0863
As promised, a few pictures of the progress. It's been so long since I resized and uploaded pictures, that I forgot how to do it. But I figured it out. The engine is installed.
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:06 am
by Explorer0863
Little by little, putting it all together. It's about 95% completed.
Re: 1963 M37B1 and introduction
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:01 am
by Explorer0863
The transfer case is ready for paint. It looks a thousand times better when compared to what I originally found.
From this:

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To this:

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