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Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:45 pm
by RMS
W_A_Watson_II wrote:except to back up to hook up to a piece of equipment that needs a slow finesse

on many of our west coast trails slow finesse is needed
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specially when climbing the V rock on the way to sunrise lake. it is so steep that the carb bogs out and needs 4 or five notches on the hand throttle and lots of clutch work. you dont want to slip a tire and end up in the V with rashed running boards and bent cab mounts or lose a hub.Image

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:38 pm
by W_A_Watson_II
Yep, been there (not out west, here in the middle of the country) done that, just don't ride the clutch.

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Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:09 pm
by RMS
no fair your running tires made this century :P thats cheating :lol:

now that looks fun :shock: are you balanced on the driver side or is that front pass making contact ?

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with some revolver shackles I bet both those back tires would be on the ground :wink:

with 4.89s and 1.96 to 1 she's a bit fast when it gets technical, clutch gets ridden and some times a helper on the running boards is needed to help steer :wink:

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:15 pm
by W_A_Watson_II
Yea, Modern tires do help.

I've been in that same predicament in the same ravine on two different wheeling trips. The first time scared the crap out of me, the 2nd time (pictured) I knew when to kit the clutch and brake to teeter on the front right and rear left tires before proceeding on.

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:22 pm
by RMS
are you running power steering ? there is no way my carter would let me get that vertical something to be said about fuel injection Image

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:49 pm
by W_A_Watson_II
Yep, Saganw PS Box, but It's very, very hard on them. I replace the box way too frequently.
Yea the Fuel Injection is a great update over a carburetor for off-road use.

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:13 pm
by isaac_alaska
I will be doing a power steering conversion using a Saginaw and tapping it for hydro assist, takes a huge amount of stress off all the steering linkage components and the steering box. Applies the majority of the force to the steering tie rod itself, right where it's needed.

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:37 pm
by W_A_Watson_II
Isaac, Assuming yours still on a stock axle I'd love to see what size of cylinder and where you mount it.

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:36 pm
by RMS
no wonder your clutch doesn't get a work out you can turn when stopped. I need to rock it and keep my thumbs out Image

my buddy terry is working on a stock axle high steer cross steer with a Saginaw mounted @ the idler on his 455rocket M . I'll get specs and pics

Re: i need more power

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:59 pm
by W_A_Watson_II
You can a little steering wheel action in this video. Oh also if you watch the Tack (Left Large Gauge) you can see the engine speed, it's a 0 to 6,000 RPM Tack.

https://youtu.be/4sYRw8InI3M

Re: i need more power

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:26 am
by T. Highway
Great video Will, steering looks effortless and the engine snaps right up to 6ooo RPM.

Bert

Re: i need more power

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:45 am
by 52PLOWERWAGON
decided to hotrod my 230

Re: i need more power

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:13 am
by RMS
check out my flathead mods and stock piston composition thread. they focus on the 251/265 but most can be applied to the 230.

Re: i need more power

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:03 pm
by 52PLOWERWAGON
thanks will do

Re: i need more power

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:12 pm
by isaac_alaska
W_A_Watson_II wrote:Isaac, Assuming yours still on a stock axle I'd love to see what size of cylinder and where you mount it.
stock axles, but big ag tires. the goal is to not change anything that can't be swapped back to 'stock' if ever desired. i'll post pictures when it's done, hopefully by spring time!